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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (194864)7/18/2004 3:13:27 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1573213
 
But "Jesus and Jihad" misses the point by a country mile. The whole point of Christianity is not ethnic cleansing, nor the justification of any evil acts such as slavery or violent conversion of non-Christians. The point is realizing that man can never be good on his own, that he needs a savior. Which to a secularist, I imagine, is the most un-PC thing you can tell him.

Your explanation sounds good but it only explains part of the story. Yes, there are Christians who claim to be good but do bad things. However, the main point of the article is to show that Christians much like some Muslims have done things in the name of their religion that are not very nice; that by brandishing their religion in front of them they felt entitled to do those bad things and that those bad things were, in fact, okay because they were done in the name of their religion.

That is why many of us may try to believe in God but want no part of one of the established religions whether it be Christianity or Islam or Judaism. In my mind, the worse features of Christians is no better or no worse than the worse features of Islam no matter how many 9/11s happen.

ted



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (194864)7/18/2004 4:00:47 PM
From: Road Walker  Respond to of 1573213
 
Ten,

re: But "Jesus and Jihad" misses the point by a country mile. The whole point of Christianity is not ethnic cleansing, nor the justification of any evil acts such as slavery or violent conversion of non-Christians. The point is realizing that man can never be good on his own, that he needs a savior.

Religion is a funny thing. It spawns so many different groups. You've got the radicals that are described in the article, that are almost "Christian bigoted" (probably a bad phrase but I can't think of a better one) in their beliefs and their lack of empathy. Then you've got the Christian missionaries (some of the most gracious people in the world IMHO); those that give all because of their empathy for their fellow man. But "realizing that man can never be good on his own, that he needs a savior" doesn't seem to have anything to do with the ultimate actions of a serious Christian.

I just posted the article because I thought it was interesting... that looking at how a Muslim might view some of our Christian rhetoric might give us a better perspective.

I think it would be helpful if both the far right Christians and the Muslims would tone things down. But I don't know how you make that happen, for either religion's radical elements.

John



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (194864)7/18/2004 10:19:57 PM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573213
 
>The point is realizing that man can never be good on his own, that he needs a savior. Which to a secularist, I imagine, is the most un-PC thing you can tell him.

It's BS.

-Z