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To: Knighty Tin who wrote (291263)	7/19/2004 4:49:35 PM
From: Freedom Fighter	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

KT, >red, I don't think it's really making things up as seeing a housecat as a ravenous lion because you're scared of cats.< I agree. I flew to Vegas 1 week after 9/11 and I was seeing sabertooth tigers everywhere. :-) However, even paranoid people are sometimes right - let alone flight attendants and others that see and deal with middle eastern men every day. There's still something strange about this story even if her account is only reasonably accurate. Why were FBI/Marshalls on that specific flight? Just coincidence? Personally, I think this whole musician thing is a vulnerability because most do take their instruments on board. I think ALL carrying cases will have to be checked out carefully.

To: Knighty Tin who wrote (291263)	7/19/2004 6:31:29 PM
From: maceng2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

Been following the "ME guys on the plane" conversation. The UK citizens (just one tiny faction of "those Europeans" -g-) have always seen the USA citizens as typically a tad hysterical. This view is at least 50 to 100 years old. There is some basis for the view. Americans tend to overdo everything. When smoking tobacco was cool, Americans smoked lots of tobacco, just look at the old movies. When putting an egg in your coffee was cool, the Americans, especially West Costers, were all for it. Americans were always for the extreme, and therefore paranoid when their perception was questioned. The story in question rings true to me, and like "redfish" I would think a Middle Eastern person making "cutting the throat" gesture on an USA inter city flight needs to take out some extra medical insurance, if not life insurance. The authorities have so many ways to get around legislation, the argument about "political correctness" seems kinda lame to me. Like if I was a black person and pissed off some police officer in one of the USA southern states (like urinating on his cruiser), I would get a fair trial on any charges that would be made. Somehow, if the authorities want to get you, they have lots of methods of "following the rules" where you end up in some jail, in all sorts of trouble, and where none of the usual rules of law apply.