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To: alan w who wrote (38094)	7/19/2004 6:07:46 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

"The canon of scripture is of God and was perfect in their original languages. Translations are not perfect. Whether they be Knoch's or 1611 KJV. You're confusing translations with the originals." I'm Orthodox and use the orginal language--no translations. The New Testament was written in Greek. You are correct to say that translations are not perfect, but the Greek text is. I will say, howerver, that most authorized versions of scriptures convey the spiritual essence of the Greek text. "Put your faith in God Emile, not men." I put my faith in Jesus, his Word, and his appointed leaders. Jesus gave them total authority and said that the even "the gates of hell would not prevail against them". He gave them authority and assurance that what they bound on earth would be bound in heaven. In whom do you put your trust? In a translation by Knoch?

To: alan w who wrote (38094)	7/19/2004 6:13:40 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

"I again repeat I believe in God and not men. Spiritual leaders from 1500 years ago were simply men" Yes they were, but your intent in incorrect, but they had ONE additional quality to their ordinary humanity--they were anointed by Christ and given grace to perform their Church appointments. The special grace given to the Apostles by Jesus was transferred to succeeding generations by the laying on of hands and the subsequent anointing and gracing by God. It was Jesus who established His Church and it was Jesus who gave he Apostles and their successors that authority. If you really believed that they were simply ordinary men WITHOUT A SPECIAL ANOINTING AND GRACING FROM GOD, then how can you accept their CANON OF SCRIPTURE?

To: alan w who wrote (38094)	7/22/2004 9:54:56 AM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

More holes in Knoch's "Reconciliation of All Things": 2Peter 2: "20": For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. "21": For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. "22": But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. Looking at both Hebrews and 2Peter, we can clearly see that all will not be saved.