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To: Neocon who wrote (140983)	7/20/2004 9:25:27 AM
From: skinowski	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Well said. we should embrace a moderate temperament politically, in order to preserve the essence of democratic debate I think it is surprising and disturbing - how quickly this "moderate temperament politically" is falling apart. Moderation is being widely replaced by histrionics. Just this morning, one of the hairy dudes on CNBC was wondering -- how Bush could be "re-elected", being that originally he was "selected". This guy should stick to misleading about stocks.

To: Neocon who wrote (140983)	7/20/2004 9:33:30 AM
From: Suma	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Excellent Post, Neocon. Rather much spells it out what I would believe as patriotic Americans we would all hope to achieve.. Diversity with reason... Compassion and acceptance. Youre last paragraph is just beautiful. Thanks for posting that. Is it excerpted or your own thinking ?

To: Neocon who wrote (140983)	7/20/2004 9:34:27 AM
From: exdaytrader76	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

we should embrace a moderate temperament politically, in order to preserve the essence of democratic debate, the willingness to abide by fair elections, and the sustenance of robust civil liberties. But those terms all mean far different things to different people. For example, imo The Patriot Act is radical, not moderate, and it certainly leaves civil liberties less robust. The definitions of words like "fair, moderate, democratic, and civil liberties" may be stretched enough to encompass a violent debate. You might say, "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."

To: Neocon who wrote (140983)	7/20/2004 10:25:58 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

I welcome intelligent criticism and dissent. For example, I disagree with a lot of what Rockwell says about Lincoln, but agree that the Civil War was the death knell for Jeffersonian anti-federalism, and mourn that myself. Too bad Jefferson was in France when the Constitution was framed, maybe things would have turned out differently. I don't think that one should simply admire the status quo because it is the status quo. I dislike much of what the federal government has become in the 20th century, maybe even most of it. Almost all of my ancestors immigrated here long before the Civil War, in fact, almost all before the American Revolution, a substantial number were among the earliest settlers.