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To: exdaytrader76 who wrote (141080)7/21/2004 12:15:21 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Respond to of 281500
 
We always hear about freedom of religion, but rarely freedom from religion: <Freedom of religion is still held in high regard in Norway.

//But maybe not Sweden, as a pastor was recently jailed for a sermon that offended gays//:

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We have Islamic Jihad and the Crusaders ramming religion down our throats; King George II tells how he has prayed for guidance, presumably with some help from Boykin's top notch deity who has it all over that useless Allah has-been bloke. We have judges putting 10 Commandments in the foyer [they are there to enforce temporal law, not some rule of thumb epithets]. We have swearing on the bible in courts. We have prayers all over the place in government [in NZ]. I don't think children have religion inflicted on them in school these days, though they do get environmental religion and other earthly superstitions forced on them [in NZ]. Our school assemblies used to start with The Lord's Prayer. Same old thing every day. They'd cane you if you offered resistance.

Religion is all over the place like heroin and AIDS. Children should not have it inflicted on them.

Freedom from religion would make a nice change.

If the religious would do as homosexuals do, and practise their desires behind closed doors, with consenting adults, it would be much more pleasant in the public space which we all have to share.

I have nothing against religion, or even religious homosexuals. Heck, some of my best friends are religious homsexuals and they should definitely be treated as human. Even if they are women. How broad-minded is that?!!

Meanwhile, back to The Crusades and PNAC, from which I see Mr End of History has resigned as being an undesirable association.

Mqurice



To: exdaytrader76 who wrote (141080)7/21/2004 5:27:45 AM
From: Noel de Leon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
"But maybe not Sweden, as a pastor was recently jailed for a sermon that offended gays:"

Being a pastor doesn't endow one with absolute power

In a democratic society all freedoms carry with them an obligation. Offending gays is not acceptable in many countries.

"Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

Clearly offensive.

As is:
"10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death"