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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (37292)	7/23/2004 6:33:18 PM
From: zonkie	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 81568

Do you think someone should read this to junior? Probably not, junior is allergic to the truth. ____________________ excerpt--------- "What is even more significant in terms of news value are those highly-placed, influential Republicans who have abandoned Bush&Co. When William F. Buckley, the founding editor of National Review, the bible of rockhard conservatism, can denounce Bush's Iraq adventure and competence in print, you know a turning point has been reached on the right. So many diplomats, retired generals, corporate leaders, ex-officials in the Reagan and Bush 1 administrations likewise have gone public in recent weeks with their reservations about Bush&Co. It's clear these elite Republicans believe that their financial and political interests are jeopardized by the radical, bumbling crew currently in charge, and that they, and the country as a whole, will be better served by getting those guys out of the White House, even if it means putting a more centrist candidate like Kerry into power. Karl Rove and his minions are not stupid. They see what is happening across the country, the steady erosion of fed-up conservatives from the Bush camp, the loss of public support for the war, the lackluster job situation, the poll numbers showing Kerry slowly pulling ahead in one toss-up state after another. They know their time in power could be limited, and that criminal indictments may well follow their defeat." democraticunderground.com

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (37292)	7/23/2004 9:00:04 PM
From: Skywatcher	Respond to of 81568

while condi and dickie and wolfie and rummie WERE AT THE HELM....ASLEEP!.... old documents.... old story.... and oh....Condi forgot to READ IT ASHCROFT PUBLICLY MISLEADS 9/11 COMMISSION During his public testimony before the 9/11 commission, Attorney General John Ashcroft attempted to deflect criticism from his own lackluster counterterrorism efforts by pinning the blame on a 1995 memo written by former deputy Attorney General (and current 9/11 commissioner) Jamie Gorelick. Ashcroft said, "The 1995 guidelines and the procedures developed around them imposed draconian barriers, barriers between the law enforcement and intelligence communities. The wall effectively excluded prosecutors from intelligence investigations. The wall left intelligence agents afraid to talk with criminal prosecutors or agents."[1] Ashcroft called the memo "the single greatest structural cause for the September 11 problem." In their final report released yesterday, the bi-partisan 9/11 commission concluded that Ashcroft's public testimony was false and misleading. The commission bluntly stated that Ashcroft's public testimony did not "fairly or accurately reflect the significance of the 1995 documents and their relevance to the 2001 discussions."[2] Specifically, "The Gorelick memorandum applied to two particular criminal cases, neither of which was involved in the summer 2001 information-sharing discussions." Any barriers between the law enforcement and intelligence communities were not created from written guidelines by internal Justice Department conflicts which "neither Attorney General [Ashcroft or Reno] acted to resolve" prior to 9/11. Even Ashcroft himself has recently backed away from his April testimony before the commission. In a recent document released by the Justice Department, Ashcroft conceded that Gorelick's memo permitted "interaction and information sharing between prosecutors and intelligence officers" and allowed the FBI to use the fruits of an intelligence investigation "in a criminal prosecution."[3] Ashcroft failed to mention that guidelines issued by his own deputy Attorney General, Larry Thompson, were more restrictive because they affirmed the Gorelick memo and added additional requirements.[4] CC