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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (141425)7/26/2004 1:30:19 PM
From: Sun Tzu  Respond to of 281500
 
>> Actually, I find that, when left alone, most social systems closely mimic the "law of the jungle", with the brutal subjugating the timid.

Perhaps you should study the life of gorilla tribes as an example of how the "law of jungle" is not what you think it is. It is not the biggest and badest gorilla that makes the alpha male, but the one who has the support of most of the pack; he gains such favors by helping in child rearing and protecting the pack. The same goes for wolves. I'll wait to hear about an example of a natural system that when left alone, has not balanced itself for the best.

>> Are you saying that Wahhabists represent a majority of the population in Saudi Arabia?

This has been my impression. Do you have stats that contradict this?

BTW, either way, establishing a Shia government in Saudi has far more advantages than any other practical alternative.

ST



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (141425)7/26/2004 2:50:56 PM
From: GST  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
<The reformists have suffered recent setbacks over the past year. But the level of repression and arbitrary mis-use of governmental power has only fed greater resentment that will eventually "blow-back" upon them..>

Sounds a lot like life in the United States.



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (141425)7/28/2004 8:36:24 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
There you are, your ears should be burning. We were just talking about how soldiers routinely rape and kill civilians just for kicks. You seem like such a nice guy, but I've been told "everybody did it."