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To: Neocon who wrote (141666)	7/27/2004 4:52:16 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

It is a popular fallacy to imagine the worst, take it to the extreme, and then use it as justification for wrongful actions. Using this kind of logic we should execute children who steal candy because surely they will become armed robbers who murder innocent people...now on to your points: Firstly, we did not bring Stalin to power; he got there on his own and with the help of Germans. Nor did we support him against his internal enemies or tried to direct his policies. So unlike the dictators we brought to power and trained their secret police force, we were not responsible for Stalin's actions. Nor did We really "ally" ourselves with Stalin. We fought Hitler and so did he. Stalin would have fought Hitler regardless of what we did because Hitler had invaded Russia. Similarly, we would have fought Hitler regardless of Stalin, because of a number of reasons, including the Japanese attack on our base. Finally, there is no comparison between fighting Hitler in the middle of WWII after we fully understood who we are dealing with, and fighting some socialist rebels who mostly want to free their country and improve the lives of their people. Unless you have a direct line to the Almighty, I don't see how you could say that efforts to support Ho Chi Minh and provide incentives for a more democratic regime in Vietnam would have been as disastrous as Hitler had been for Europe. To make this an analogy for our actions in Vietnam or support of the various thugships, many of whom we brought to power in the first place, is beyond comparing apples and oranges. See if you can find a comparable example that fits the pattern better. Sun (do you not really see this?!) Tzu