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To: i-node who wrote (196047)	7/27/2004 11:34:57 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575421

You sure? You don't have to be a member of the Communist Party to have voted against the Iraq war, to be for gay marriage, or to advocate for a universalized health care system. Why are you for "gay marriage"? Why are you for changing the meaning of a term that has been with us for years? A marriage has always been defined as a man and a woman. Only recently has the definition been rewritten to accommodate homosexuals. Why not call it a "Homosexual Union", which is a more apt description of what it is? This is common sense. You don't go around redefining legal terms willy-nilly. There is no reasonable argument to keep gays from having a legal marriage. Those saying otherwise are exhibiting the same bias that kept blacks at the back of the bus and out of white restaurants 50 years ago. Its not only ridiculous; its retarded and niggardly behavior. Frankly, only a total idiot would advocate a government run healthcare system. I deal with Medicare and Medicaid on a daily basis. You cannot make a cogent argument that government run healthcare is a good thing. Besides, why do it? Our healthcare system is indisputably the best in the world. Not one soul in this nation goes without medical care if they choose to be treated. Do all get PERFECT healthcare? Of course not. No country on earth can deliver that. Indisputably? There are many who would argue otherwise with you. Too many people die in this country because they can't afford health insurance. Its a sin and an abomination, and shows that we are not very enlightened. At some point, all these liberal social programs (Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Welfare and Food Stamps, etc.) become tantamount to pure socialism and begin to look a lot like communism (from each according to his ability, to each according to his need, you remember that, right?). Socialism? Hardly. Its simple Christian goodwill as practiced and preached by JC.....each of us helping those who are less fortunate. I had thought there was hope for you. Hell, I don't think you're going to grow out of this. You're an idiot.

To: i-node who wrote (196047)	7/27/2004 11:59:47 PM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575421

>Why are you for "gay marriage"? Why are you for changing the meaning of a term that has been with us for years? A marriage has always been defined as a man and a woman. Only recently has the definition been rewritten to accommodate homosexuals. Why not call it a "Homosexual Union", which is a more apt description of what it is? This is common sense. You don't go around redefining legal terms willy-nilly. Why not? It's not "willy-nilly." Two people who love each other would like to say that they're married, so why can't they? Your argument is clearly reactionary. >Frankly, only a total idiot would advocate a government run healthcare system. I deal with Medicare and Medicaid on a daily basis. You cannot make a cogent argument that government run healthcare is a good thing. Well, then I guess I'm total idiot. Yup. Are you telling me that the HMO system is a good one? It's awful! I can't imagine a state-run system being much worse. >Besides, why do it? Our healthcare system is indisputably the best in the world. Not one soul in this nation goes without medical care if they choose to be treated. And for many, it costs them their livelihoods. That shouldn't be the case. >At some point, all these liberal social programs (Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Welfare and Food Stamps, etc.) become tantamount to pure socialism and begin to look a lot like communism (from each according to his ability, to each according to his need, you remember that, right?). So, what's wrong with that? Socialism, in itself, isn't evil. As long as it ain't a dictatorship, it doesn't sound too bad to me. I think I combination system where a "socialist" system takes care of the things we need while a "capitalist" system makes a profit off of our wants is ideally the way to go. What's wrong with that? >I had thought there was hope for you. Hell, I don't think you're going to grow out of this. Nope, I grew into it. You're not gonna like me! Your loss. -Z

To: i-node who wrote (196047)	7/28/2004 12:27:25 AM
From: Amy J	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575421

David, RE: "I deal with Medicare and Medicaid on a daily basis. You cannot make a cogent argument that government run healthcare is a good thing." What do you do that makes you deal with Medicare/Medicaid? I concur with you that letting the govt run healthcare is NOT a good thing. RE: "Our healthcare system is indisputably the best in the world." No it's not. The preventive care is much better in foreign countries. We're still a nation of "fix what's tangible and broken", not "fix it before it breaks." RE: "Why are you for "gay marriage"? " I can't imagine why anyone would restrict the freedom of gay people. It's beyond me. Regards, Amy J