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To: exdaytrader76 who wrote (141755)	7/29/2004 10:21:26 PM
From: BubbaFred	Respond to of 281500

"...what made America powerful: observance of the rule of law at home and adherence to jus gentium, the law of nations, abroad..." GONE, and US that was once the biggest proponent has now become laughing stock of the world. US can no longer lecture. It will laughed at. "In 1984: "As a young man, just after World War II, I studied what was then called international relations, and I suppose still is ... I wanted to take part in the great challenges and destiny of my generation ... All of use were convinced that it was our duty and destiny to help build a world of peace based on law. More than any other, the reason that era now seems so distant, at least to my view, is because the idea of law -- international law -- has faded from our collective memory ... A commitment to law ought to be understood not as a commitment to use force, but rather to use force only as an instrument of law ... A great many people seem to think of law as a kind of self-imposed restraint on America's ability to act decisively or with force in world affairs. This misstates what law is, and obscures the fact that international law can actually enhance the national security of the United States ... In the realm of law, the United States seems almost to have forgotten our once deep and abiding commitment to the rules of international conduct. In Washington, where toughness and ignorance are frequently confused, the view is heard that for us to abide by such rules ... is to submit to a permanent and possibly fatal disadvantage ... Macho strategists, much to be found in Washington just now, let it be known that in their view the law is for sissies ... real men do not cite [Hugo] Grotius."" Watch out for that grotesque American military might, very similar to British Empire that ruled the sea. Watch out because they will come to steal and take away your valuables. Watch out, because they will become they are pirates, and you have to give them protection money if you want your goods to be deliverable to their destinations. Watch out, here comes the world's most powerful gang of goons. It seems like the last desperate act. How long can this last? Message 20357901 --------------------------------- Kiwanis Conventions, moose get-togethers and the Democrats! "Americans are as susceptible to fraud and illusion as any people, but more ready to give into self- adulation than most. A long run of very good luck has made fools of them. They fly the flag from every lamppost and TV antenna and congratulate each other on what a fine country they've put together. But it is a Republic of happy morons - going deeper and deeper into debt with no clue how ever to get out; meanwhile, they sell houses to one another and believe they are getting rich. " Message 20358721