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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (141760)7/28/2004 2:55:46 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
There are so many unfounded assumptions in that small packet that it's difficult to know where to start. Let me say, however that the inspectors were given access to EVERY site that they asked to inspect

Sites, yup. Clean sites. People, nope. Terrified, lying scientists who insisted on government minders lest they be shot afterwards. Scientists who were not allowed to leave the country.

Hans Blix wasn't so easily fooled by the Iraqis

He sure had been in the past. He was the one who was ready to give Iraq a clean bill of health just before Hussein Kamel defected and spilled the beans on the hidden programs.

Most people didn't "know" that the inspectors would "find nothing."

If you mean, most people who believe in international agencies as somthing out of Star Trek, then yes. Everybody who knew Saddam knew he would pretend some ccoperation (and even with the army on his borders it wasn't much) but arrange for the inspectors to find nothing. Did they even get any accounting for what had happened to previously identified stocks? Nope. They got xeroxes of previously submitted (lying) reports.

THERE WAS VIRTUALLY NOTHING TO BE FOUND. Accept the reality that Iraq was, as claimed by Saddam Hussein, virtually wmd free.

He was supposed to ACCOUNT for his stocks. Where are they? Who has them now? If they were destroyed, where are the records? That regime did nothing without records! For goodness sake, even the Iraqi generals believed he still had the stocks! How can you point to our inability to find them and say, look, there was nothing to worry about! He had them before, do you deny it? Where are they now? Who has them? Hidden? Destroyed? Shipped Abroad? What?

To my mind, this is like saying, we can't find Osama bin Laden, so obviously there was nothing to worry about.

David Kay, the same guy who didn't find the stocks, is on record saying that what he did find (lots of dual use facilities) persuades him that Iraq was even more dangerous than supposed.

On the other hand, it clearly has everything to do with striking down an enemy of Israel and involving the U.S. in a war against the perceived enemies of Israel throughout the region

No, guy. The enemy of Israel would be Iran, too tough a nut to crack with military force alone. It has to do with bringing reform to the Arab World before it truely ignites another World War. That is the bottom line.



To: cnyndwllr who wrote (141760)7/28/2004 4:20:42 PM
From: Dr. Id  Respond to of 281500
 
Excellent summary.