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To: techguerrilla who wrote (52242)	7/28/2004 6:11:02 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 89467

Techg. and this is what you call an intellectual debate? Message 20355224

To: techguerrilla who wrote (52242)	7/28/2004 6:13:42 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 89467

So, if you have no back bone, stay on the chinu thread where opposing views are not tolerated...

To: techguerrilla who wrote (52242)	7/28/2004 6:36:33 PM
From: Skywatcher	Respond to of 89467

Bush Leagues Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior By TERESA HAMPTON Editor, Capitol Hill Blue Jul 28, 2004, 08:09 capitolhillblue.com President George W. Bush is taking powerful anti-depressant drugs to control his erratic behavior, depression and paranoia, Capitol Hill Blue has learned. The prescription drugs, administered by Col. Richard J. Tubb, the White House physician, can impair the President’s mental faculties and decrease both his physical capabilities and his ability to respond to a crisis, administration aides admit privately. “It’s a double-edged sword,” says one aide. “We can’t have him flying off the handle at the slightest provocation but we also need a President who is alert mentally.” Tubb prescribed the anti-depressants after a clearly-upset Bush stormed off stage on July 8, refusing to answer reporters' questions about his relationship with indicted Enron executive Kenneth J. Lay. “Keep those motherfuckers away from me,” he screamed at an aide backstage. “If you can’t, I’ll find someone who can.” Bush’s mental stability has become the topic of Washington whispers in recent months. Capitol Hill Blue first reported on June 4 about increasing concern among White House aides over the President’s wide mood swings and obscene outbursts. Although GOP loyalists dismissed the reports an anti-Bush propaganda, the reports were later confirmed by prominent George Washington University psychiatrist Dr. Justin Frank in his book Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President. Dr. Frank diagnosed the President as a “paranoid meglomaniac” and “untreated alcoholic” whose “lifelong streak of sadism, ranging from childhood pranks (using firecrackers to explode frogs) to insulting journalists, gloating over state executions and pumping his hand gleefully before the bombing of Baghdad” showcase Bush’s instabilities. “I was really very unsettled by him and I started watching everything he did and reading what he wrote and watching him on videotape. I felt he was disturbed,” Dr. Frank said. “He fits the profile of a former drinker whose alcoholism has been arrested but not treated.” Dr. Frank’s conclusions have been praised by other prominent psychiatrists, including Dr. James Grotstein, Professor at UCLA Medical Center, and Dr. Irvin Yalom, MD, Professor Emeritus at Stanford University Medical School. The doctors also worry about the wisdom of giving powerful anti-depressant drugs to a person with a history of chemical dependency. Bush is an admitted alcoholic, although he never sought treatment in a formal program, and stories about his cocaine use as a younger man haunted his campaigns for Texas governor and his first campaign for President. “President Bush is an untreated alcoholic with paranoid and megalomaniac tendencies,” Dr. Frank adds. The White House did not return phone calls seeking comment on this article. Although the exact drugs Bush takes to control his depression and behavior are not known, White House sources say they are “powerful medications” designed to bring his erratic actions under control. While Col. Tubb regularly releases a synopsis of the President’s annual physical, details of the President’s health and any drugs or treatment he may receive are not public record and are guarded zealously by the secretive cadre of aides that surround the President. Veteran White House watchers say the ability to control information about Bush’s health, either physical or mental, is similar to Ronald Reagan’s second term when aides managed to conceal the President’s increasing memory lapses that signaled the onslaught of Alzheimer’s Disease. It also brings back memories of Richard Nixon’s final days when the soon-to-resign President wondered the halls and talked to portraits of former Presidents. The stories didn’t emerge until after Nixon left office. One long-time GOP political consultant who – for obvious reasons – asked not to be identified said he is advising his Republican Congressional candidates to keep their distance from Bush. “We have to face the very real possibility that the President of the United States is loony tunes,” he says sadly. “That’s not good for my candidates, it’s not good for the party and it’s certainly not good for the country.” © Copyright 2004 Capitol Hill Blue

To: techguerrilla who wrote (52242)	7/28/2004 6:54:25 PM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 89467

'Obama embodies the hopes of the people' suntimes.com

To: techguerrilla who wrote (52242)	7/28/2004 7:12:26 PM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 89467

Edwards Speech to Include His 'Two Americas' Theme _________________________________________ Kerry Arrives in Boston by Water Taxi Associated Press July 28, 2004 5:28 p.m. John Edwards, whose telegenic looks, Southern drawl and smooth-talking style helped him connect with jurors and many Democratic primary voters, will reach out to the largest audience of his political career later today. The North Carolina senator views his nationally televised prime-time acceptance speech to the Democratic National Convention as an opportunity to introduce himself and Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry to millions of Americans, many of whom know little about either. Ahead of the address, Mr. Edwards said it would touch on the theme of "two Americas" -- one for the rich, the other for everyone else -- that became a staple of his stump speeches last winter during his unsuccessful but well-received bid for the Democratic nomination. Mr. Edwards was Mr. Kerry's last major Democratic challenger to fold his campaign. He won but one primary -- South Carolina, where he was born -- but finished a strong second in many other states. The 51-year-old Mr. Edwards said he wrote most of the speech himself in longhand on yellow legal pad, going through some 30 drafts, and he practiced it repeatedly. Mr. Edwards's speaking style -- direct, without notes and with short sentences and simple words -- was honed over years as a plaintiff's trial lawyer, helping him win one multimillion-dollar verdict after another. His 1998 Senate victory was his first foray into public service. "He'll be talking a lot about Sen. Kerry and the attributes that he brings and will bring to the office of the presidency," his wife Elizabeth Edwards said Wednesday morning on CBS-TV's "Early Show." "And he'll be talking about specifics of their plan to improve our safety and security and strength at home and abroad." The candidate's wife -- a successful lawyer herself who was to introduce Edwards at the convention -- joined him early Wednesday for a podium and microphone check. Many Democratic strategists see Mr. Edwards as offering strength in areas where Kerry is deemed to be weak -- support among rural and small-town voters, especially in the South; his upbeat personality and common touch. Meanwhile, Mr. Kerry and his Vietnam-era swiftboat crewmates used a water taxi to arrive in Boston, with the presidential hopeful promising "No retreat, no surrender" in political combat with President Bush. Mr. Kerry snapped salutes and gave thumbs-up to a crowd of roaring supporters, as he stood shoulder-to-shoulder with his fellow crewmates. Bruce Springsteen's "No Surrender" blared from speakers as the ferry pulled into the dock. Copyright © 2004 Associated Press

To: techguerrilla who wrote (52242)	7/28/2004 11:56:19 PM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 89467

According to John Dean Bush's Administration is 'WORSE THAN WATERGATE'....fyi... amazon.com Editorial Reviews Worse Than Watergate: The Secret Presidency of George W. Bush by John W. Dean Amazon.com The most facile presidential comparison one could make for George W. Bush would be his father, who presided over a war in Iraq and a struggling economy. Some "neocons" reject the parallel and compare Bush to his father's predecessor, Ronald Reagan, citing a plainspoken quality and a belief in deep tax cuts. But John Dean goes further back, seeing in Bush all the secrecy and scandal of Dean's former boss, the notorious Richard Nixon. The difference, as the title of Dean's book indicates, is that Bush is a heck of a lot worse. While the book provides insightful snippets of the way Nixon used to do business, it offers them to shed light on the practices of Bush. In Dean's estimation, the secrecy with which Bush and Dick Cheney govern is not merely a preferred system of management but an obsessive strategy meant to conceal a deeply troubling agenda of corporate favoritism and a dramatic growth in unchecked power for the executive branch that put at risk the lives of American citizens, civil liberties, and the Constitution. Dean sets out to make his point by drawing attention to several areas about which Bush and Cheney have been tight-lipped: the revealing by a "senior White House official" of the identity of an undercover CIA operative whose husband questioned the administration, the health of Cheney, the identity of Cheney's energy task force, the information requested by the bi-partisan 9/11 commission, Bush's business dealings early in his career, the creation of a "shadow government", wartime prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay, and scores more. He theorizes that the truth about these and many other situations, including the decision to go to war in Iraq, will eventually surface and that Bush and Cheney's secrecy is a thus far effective means of keep a lid on a rapidly multiplying set of lies and scandals that far outstrip the misdeeds that led directly to Dean's former employer resigning in disgrace. Dean's charges are impassioned and more severe than many of Bush's most persistent critics. But those charges are realized only after careful reasoning and steady logic by a man who knows his way around scandal and corruption. --John Moe From Publishers Weekly: This title’s accusation bears particular weight coming from the man who warned the super-secretive Richard Nixon that there was a cancer on his presidency, and Dean, who was Nixon’s White House counsel, makes a strong argument that the secrecy of what he dubs the "Bush-Cheney presidency" is "not merely unjustified and excessive but obsessive," and consequently "frighteningly dangerous."

To: techguerrilla who wrote (52242)	7/29/2004 11:26:09 AM
From: Jim Willie CB	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

the key core support group for Bushy an attempt to profile them they are below avg in intelligence they finished in the lower half of their high school class they never attended college, or else maybe a year or some community college they hold a certain disdain for "city slickers" they hardly ever read much of anything (book, news magazine) they dont speak any foreign language they have never traveled beyond their 200-mile region they never traveled to Europe, yet hate them they dont attend church, but respect those who do they know we need foreign oil, and believe we should secure it in foreign sources, even if by force they tend to hold great resentment (if not bigotry hatred) toward blacks and hispanics and maybe even asians they like to wave their flags but could not define patriotism they never studied anything about Hitler or his rise to power they could not identify more than one foreign prime minister by name they could not identify more than 3 foreign nation capitals they respond to fear tactics, realize we are vulnerable to terrorism, yet have no idea what approach might be effective they could not tell you A SINGLE ITEM on the Bill or Rights they could not tell you what the 3 branches of the USGovt are they tend to maintain a shifting foundation for their ethics if you asked them what 3 THINGS are most important in their daily lives, then later what 3 THINGS they spend most of their time doing in daily activities, YOU GET A TOTAL DISCONNECT (which speaks to hypocrisy of values) they tend to show aggression first, before considered thought, especially before any attempt at negotiation THIS IS BUSHY'S CORE which is much much larger a slice of Americana than you think IT REMINDS ME OF NIXON'S "SILENT MAJORITY" this Bushy shows all the dishonesty and evil nature of Nixon without the advantage of any of Nixon's high intelligence Bushy, the Idiot Prince with the estimated IQ of 91 which is dumber than all but two morons in my grade school class of 70 kids / jim p.s. a few of us raided the principal's office at lunchtime great sport do you remember the Shearn girls ???