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To: combjelly who wrote (196193)	7/29/2004 7:28:25 AM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572209

Comb, re: To cut and run would make the sacrifices that our troops have made meaningless. And that would be criminal. We cannot make the same mistakes we made in Vietnam. Not only is it stupid, it is self-destructive. I heard the same arguments for year, after year, after year in Vietnam. In the end, there was still nothing to do but "cut and run", and in the meantime we had lost and destroyed countless lives on both sides. And now we have "normal" relations with Vietnam. Can Iraq be "saved"? I fear not, at least not by us. I suspect we've created an unstable breeding ground for a generation of terrorists. The only hope to "save" Iraq is the Iraqi people. The conservative principle of self determination still rings true. Too bad there are no conservatives in the White House. John

To: combjelly who wrote (196193)	7/29/2004 12:14:29 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572209

We didn't go into either action with sufficient resources. We could have done a lot of good in both places, but we tried to do it on the cheap. To cut and run would make the sacrifices that our troops have made meaningless. And that would be criminal. We cannot make the same mistakes we made in Vietnam. Not only is it stupid, it is self-destructive. If we don't cut and run, when do we leave? When democracy has taken hold? When the Iraqi gov't for better [democratic] or for worse [despot]firmly has the reins in its grasp? Sorry I don't want to wait around another 10 years hoping that democracy will bloom in this hell hole when it never had a chance of working in the first place. You've got to know when to cut your losses. Bush started a war he could not finish and we should honor that stupid decision by spending more and more billions and losing more and more Americans. I don't think so. I am willing to stick it out in Afghanistan where there is a multilateral effort but I want to pull out of Iraq asap. ted