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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (141867)	7/29/2004 11:38:57 AM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The "places" I remember are the 1st cav center in Bien Hua, a special forces section of, I believe, either Bien Hua or Song Be that had a px and another place that you'll remember and that I visited when my company sent me to "combat leaders" training for a few days, the hospital in Saigon but only from the inside, Tay Ninh, an aid station in Cu Chi, the malaria center in Cameron Bay, the nco club at Ton Son Nut air base, Australia for RxR with Kings Cross and the Whiskey a Go Go, Lz Grant, Lz Lee, and a couple more Lz's whose names I've forgotten. Everything else was jungle and we never slept on the same ground twice. Thank you. I believe you. I had to ask. Let me tell you about the school I built. It was at the base of hill 990 on the North Hill of the Ben Het A Team Camp, 5 clicks from the Cambodian, Laotian tri-border. Hill 875 (bloody hill 875) was in full view a coupla clicks away. This was an area of some of the heaviest continuous fighting throughout the war. We built it from logs we cut from trees that had just fallen during one of the battles during the seige of Ben Het. The children of the Ben Het Montagnard strikers attended it. It is common, even routine for A Teams to suggest and assist locals in such projects. Teams are doing the same in Afghan boonies and Iraq today. In the meantime, three things. First, you like to put everyone in one basket. Kerry accused "all vets" of atrocities. The winter soldiers "were phonies and lied," in your view yet, at best, all you can really claim is that a few might have lied. And of course anyone that substantially disagrees with your view of the war and politics must be a "phoney." The problem with that kind of "right or wrong" thinking is that the world isn't so simple that we all see it the same way. I hardly put everyone in the same basket. And nobody hates war more than me. And FYI I was an E-1 to E-6 before OCS. You did your tour and completed it. Kerry did 4 months and four days and left Nam after asking to be relieved of command of his ship and men while in the field. Now, some consider him a hero. Would you have thought that your squad leader, platoon sgt or platoon leader was a hero under similar circumstances. You left an E-5 so I know you did a great job and were probably a squad leader yourself. Did you abandon your men in combat. Would you be a hero if you had? The story of the winter soldiers and dewey canyon has been thoroughly documented. If you want to know why some of us think like I do read about them and read "Stolen Valor". Take a look here to start...especially the second link. ice.he.net ice.he.net