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To: Bill who wrote (38704)7/29/2004 3:06:52 PM
From: Emile VidrineRespond to of 81568
 
"No resources were diverted"

$200 billion and 140,000 young Americans occupying Iraq are, in your opinion, simply a mirage? 1000 young Americans dead and another 6000 serously wounded. Is that also a mirage?

If these $200 billion and 140,000 American soldiers had been directed to finding Bin Laden and destroying Al Qaeda, the war would probably already be won.

Instead, Bush has used our military to secure the powerful Jewish-American vote in the 2004 presidential election. How did he buy this powerful Jewish support? He has used our military to secure Israel's eastern flank by invading Iraq and threatening Iran and Syria, he has, under the direction of the Jewish lobby, used our Defense, State, and Justice Depts. to classify Palestinian liberation organizations as terrorist organization, and he has diverted much needed military and intelligence resources to help maintain Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories.

Israeli security is the conrnerstone of the new Bush doctrine.



To: Bill who wrote (38704)7/29/2004 3:13:28 PM
From: CalculatedRiskRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
Shifts from bin Laden hunt evoke questions
By Dave Moniz and Steven Komarow, USA TODAY
usatoday.com

WASHINGTON — In 2002, troops from the 5th Special Forces Group who specialize in the Middle East were pulled out of the hunt for Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan to prepare for their next assignment: Iraq. Their replacements were troops with expertise in Spanish cultures.

The CIA, meanwhile, was stretched badly in its capacity to collect, translate and analyze information coming from Afghanistan. When the White House raised a new priority, it took specialists away from the Afghanistan effort to ensure Iraq was covered.

Those were just two of the tradeoffs required because of what the Pentagon and CIA acknowledge is a shortage of key personnel to fight the war on terrorism. The question of how much those shifts prevented progress against al-Qaeda and other terrorists is putting the Bush administration on the defensive.

Even before the invasion, the wisdom of shifting resources from the bin Laden hunt to the war in Iraq was raised privately by top military officials and publicly by Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla., and others. Now it's being hotly debated again following an election-year critique of the Bush administration by its former counterterrorism adviser, Richard Clarke.

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To: Bill who wrote (38704)7/29/2004 3:18:40 PM
From: CalculatedRiskRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
More SHIFTS from Bin Laden:

...an NBC report suggests that as early as spring of 2002, only a few months after the defeat of the Taliban, the war against al-Qaeda was already being compromised by preparation for war in Iraq:

“There were decisions made,” says Flynt Leverett, a former director at the National Security Council in the Bush White House, “to take key assets, human assets, technical assets, out of theater in Afghanistan in order to position them for the campaign to unseat Saddam.”

....NBC News has learned that in one still-classified incident in Yemen, commanders wanted to engage what sources call a “viable mission against an al-Qaida target.” After all, in the past they had used the missiles on the remotely piloted drones to strike at terrorists. But in this case, because of the Iraq war, there was not a Predator they could use. The al-Qaida target got away.

What’s more, members of the CIA’s elite special activities division and the Army’s entire 5th Special Forces Group (Green Berets), who’d hunted down hundreds of al-Qaida terrorists, were pulled out of Afghanistan. The 5th, based in Fort Campbell, Kent., specializes in the Middle East and Central Asia. These soldiers are the ones who speak Arabic and Central Asian languages.

....Rick Francona, a retired Air Force colonel and an NBC News analyst, says that another valuable resource in the war against al-Qaida was a high-tech surveillance plane called the RC-135 “Rivet Joint.” “It’s not just the platform itself, it’s the linguists that man the platform,” Francona says. “They were being really overworked.”

A squadron of the RC-135s was deployed to “Operation Enduring Freedom” in 2001, says Air Force spokeswoman Beth Kelly, but they stopped prowling the skies over Afghanistan in May 2002....“I don’t think there is any question that the effort against al-Qaida was degraded,” Francona says.



To: Bill who wrote (38704)7/29/2004 3:31:10 PM
From: zonkieRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
No resources were diverted. That's another Demohack myth.
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Wrong again Bill, have you ever been right about anything?
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To:steve harris who wrote (380767)
From: Bill Friday, Mar 28, 2003 11:08 AM
View Replies (1) | Respond to of 570937

The beauty of Saddam is that we don't even have to plant what we are going to find. A more cooperative enemy we couldn't find.

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