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To: Rock_nj who wrote (7560)7/29/2004 7:11:05 PM
From: LPS5  Respond to of 20039
 
Well, the way I view Libertarianism is that it's an individualist sort of philosophy. I'd consider the guys living in the wilderness, catching their own food, and providing for their own needs in places like Alaska true individualists.

It is individually-oriented, but your obsession with reactionaries and outdoorsmen - even having been corrected by me, numerously - suggests, perhaps, that you're afflicted with one of the less subtle forms of mental illness. Review:

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NYC is the exact opposite. You're dependent on other people for just about everything when you live in a city, especially a huge one like NYC.

Absolutely. Companies, civic and religious organizations, groups of friends, family, and the like.

None of those suggest, or require, government involvement; of course, the state at all levels - federal, state, city, and local - attempt to get involved in them. We seek to push them out of those spheres, and keep them from intruding in areas they aren't already entrenched in.

It is voluntary interaction and unfettered markets that Libertarians base essentially all of our positions upon. "Interdependence," as you put it, is central to our belief and core to our antibureaucratic stance: not, in any way, anaethema to it.

It's absolutely mindboggling...or, considering the typical information-to-posting ratio on this thread, perhaps it isn't...that you miss that point utterly.

Do you grow your own food, take care of your own medical needs, make your own lighting, etc. Possible, but probably not.

I certainly do not. I buy food at stores, have a doctor and dentist, and purchase my energy from a utility company.

How do those things, in any way, put my or any urban-dwelling Libertarian's beliefs up for scrutiny?

NYC is a place of interdependence.

Life is interdependent. What's your point? Do you even know?

Do you ever ride the subway? How many people are you relying on to ensure that the subway train is there when you need it? More interdependence.

Certainly. Of course, given a choice - which I am not offered where the government is involved - I'd rather that the subway was run by a private company. (Again, see the link above, where your confusion was addressed by me almost a year ago.)

Again, though: what about any of that - buying items at stores, having friends, or even riding the subway - calls the anti-government position of any Libertarian, whether in New York, Chicago, San Francisco, St. Louis, or Las Vegas into question?

LPS5