To: thecow who wrote (42471 ) 8/3/2004 12:29:50 AM From: d:oug Respond to of 110653 I'll make my reply very short. Hopefully its all simple common sense thoughts. What I say is already knowned info, nothing new I say. The pc is now mainstream where most all folks have and use one, and are able to do just about anything in any area of life. Most users just see their pc as a 2-way communication device where they can post and reply to others, search using a Google and obtain information years ago hidden and mostly unavailable. I'am at the very low end of those that use the potential of their pc, as I only do SI and IH and Google. For me, near zero games, no music, no camera(don't own any, never did) no movies on my pc(don't know what a DVD is) and eventhought I just got an eMachine with Windows XP, the preinstalled software like: Media, Word, Money, Real/Media/Movie Player, ICQ, Encarta and even the Address Book on my AOL has never been used. Then there are a zillion freeware, shareware and COMPUSA boxes on their selves for sale of application programs used by folks that have interests like food, garden, hunting, sports etc. It boggles my mind to think what I would have done with my life if I was born on planet Earth rather than Pluto. Might a big miss-understanding occured a short while ago? [start.] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - (this week) To:thecow From: appro thecow and other regulars are doing a terrific job. Don't change a thing. This thread has been very successful for a very long time by allowing a free-for-all forum for helping each other. It has evolved with the times and I like that. I like this thread precisely because there is a critical mass of people to answer any and all questions. Let the special interest threads spring up and exist in their own right for their own reasons... - - - - - - - - #reply-19904538 SI: StockTalk: Coffee Shop : Things That Amuse Me To: ###### From: ####### March 11, 2004 ... about 5 months ago some guy over there started whining (sorry, best word for it) about "Where is this thread going?" and about the concentration of computer security issues having "taken away from the old spirit of the thread"... ... regardless of what this fellow thinks, the spirit of that thread has always been about helping... so i took his words to be, shall we say, misguided... i spent more hours on that thread than i can ever count, trying to help people out of jams and trying to keep people from getting into them in the first place.... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [end.] It was not said that computer security issues can not be posted, but only addressed "the concentration of" as a result of what can be called an explosion or all-out-war by hackers. This COMPUTER LEARNING board has been, is, and should remain as the "first stop" for any pc question or general inquirey. Any security question or alert should be posted here first so that the Member Bookmarks: 820 see it always. But as I typed in above: The pc is now mainstream where most all folks have and use one, and are able to do just about anything in any area of life. This thread can not handle all areas, and if it tries, then like the security topic, this thread becomes CL-Security to those folks that have this thread Bookmarked, and only read it. Once a topic on this thread "takes off" then it should be taken and treated as an overflow onto a sister CL-focus. That changes nothing on this thread, here is the jump'n off point to everything CL, including security. The issue raised in the past was not to "stop security postings." But that was how it was received by some. This thread should receive more than just questions, but have posted to it experiences of anyone that uses application programs and "reports" to all what they found to work and not. A "Whats the best mp3 player?" could be answered everyday for all if a CL-Music sister board was made by someone deep into that stuff, and once that question was asked, then are redirected to CL-Music. That puts a well organized history of posts together in one place, and even identifies the folks into that stuff together on a thread. This thread is the hub, and the pc & web is getting complex both in what can be done, and now security. need extra babble?investorshub.com Doug