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To: michael97123 who wrote (57734)	8/3/2004 11:12:56 AM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793750

Don't be so defensive, Michael, that wasn't a direct attack on you, but a general comment on how desperate we are as a nation right now in terms of leadership. When our choice is based on Anybody But Bush, or a desire for gridlock as the best alternative, I think it is very sad. you didnt answer my question I'm sorry, but I reread the post to which I responded and don't see a question in it. Bush was governor of Texas, a rather sizable state, from '94-'00. Don't know if you count that or not. Do I think Sam Johnson wrote that with Kerry in mind? LOL. I hope you meant that as a joke. How do draft dodgers fit in that quote? Well, I assume that if you scratched their surface, you might find true patriotism in some who saw that war as having nothing to do with the America they love, and find cowardice in others. I wouldn't presume to judge your reasons. And no, I didn't serve. I was female (still am) and in college. My roommate's brother was killed in Vietnam and that was close enough for me. I'm not sure why you got so defensive about my post. I was commenting on the sadness of the phrase "presidential enough" which sounded rather like someone trying to pass off the proverbial sow's ear as a silk purse. It just encapsulated a problem that has been more and more apparent with every election- the lack of true statesmen. I think this is why people grasped so eagerly and unquestioningly, with such unbridled enthusiasm, at Edwards and Dean and Wesley Clark and now at Obama. We want leaders we can look up to, trust, respect, and we keep having these teenage like crushes that quickly fall apart with reality.

To: michael97123 who wrote (57734)	8/3/2004 12:22:56 PM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793750

"presidential enough"-- what a sad phrase. It is sad. Most jobs in America have certain qualification standards. The job of president has no required or suggested qualifications that pertain to experience (any experience), education, demonstrated abilities, prior leadership training or OJT. Kerry suggests that he will be a better pres because he served 124 days of combat duty 35 years ago...THAT is IT. That is the sum total of his campaign. Yet the (non-existent)job description and mandatory requirement list to be pres says nary a word about military service. I do not like Kerry because like Gore he used an administrative excuse to get out of war duty, leave his men in combat, and calls himself a hero for it. I did not like Clinton because Clinton refused to take action to exercise the oath of the pres to protect and defend the United States. Clinton threatened action but never took any. I could not support that. If Clinton had taken action, I would have supported him. Kerry's record is such that I cannot support his election and will continue to work against him. If Kerry becomes pres and lives by his oath I will support him. If Kerry fails in the Clinton tradition I will work to unseat him. In the meantime, while Clinton's staff is stealing documents and Kerry's staff is pandering to anybody with a dollar to give, Bush's staff works everyday to take apart terrorist orgs; to kill or capture their leaders and terrorist operatives; to manage a difficult economy; to establish some rights for the unborn; and to set a marriage standard according to American tradition. One man is yapping (mostly about himself and his foul mouthed wife), the other is protecting America from our enemies and tackling the most difficult of issues. GWB makes mistakes because he does a lot. Kerry makes no mistakes because he does nothing. Clinton was the same...But as pres doing nothing is not an appropriate action when America has been attacked. Kerry thinks we are going under. GWB thinks we are headed up. The key difference on some issues is that GW wants Americans to have the opportunity to vote and let the majority decide. Kerry wants to avoid the vote so his minority can't lose. I am supporting the man who is taking action until he is no longer pres. uw