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To: Neocon who wrote (142386)	8/3/2004 12:01:48 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

He dates the text from 750-1600 AD. The starting date is when the Arab/Islamic empire settled down from war and paranoia and started to allow its citizens to progress. This goes to the first part of my argument that empire building doesn't do much for humanity and that it is after empires settle down and normalcy returns to society that we see progress. But of course the nation primarily associated with the empire always claims the credit. The second date, 1600 is when I said Europe started to get up and narrowed the gap until about 1800 when it surpassed the East. So I think I've been accurate in my statements. The "Scientific Revolution" you talk about was only revolutionary in Europe because it contrasted so sharply with the near complete lack of progress in the previous 800 years. In the East, it would have simply been the extension of existing trends. What were the major starting points of this "Scientific Revolution"? Making science free of the Church? Muslim countries never had that problem. Being Enamored with logic to the point of "I think therefore I am"? I read treatise on that (and responses to that silly notion that reason-alone-and-by-itself rules supreme) that date back to 900s. That the Earth was not the center of universe and that it was round? Muslim scholars (I think it was Khawrazmi) accurately measured the circumference of the Earth by traveling some 2000 miles and measuring the angular change relative to the North Star. What else can we say about this "Scientific Revolution"? The use of scientific method? This too had been in use for at least about 800 years before Europe. The revolution you talk about was not necessary in the East because they never stagnated the way Europe did. To have a revolution, of any kind, a great disparity must exist for a long time (often centuries). A society that progresses at a moderate rate and keeps things more or less in balance, never has revolutions.