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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Carolyn who wrote (40253)	8/4/2004 9:50:23 AM
From: Richnorth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

Some interesting, if not pointed, comments from John Kaminski at rense.com. John Kaminski says he prefers Nader (though he is now dumped from the Green Party) to Bush and Kerry to be the next President of the USA. .............So just compare that (Nader's) impressive record with Bush and Kerry. Bush? Military deserter, covered up by his father's political connections. Cocaine addict, arrested in Houston, 1972, trial records made to disappear. Shady character in Central America, working for his father, who had an oil company as a cover for drug smuggling. Then somebody bought him a baseball team, and he turned a tidy profit. Then somebody put him on the board of an oil company, whose stock he illegally sold at a hefty profit just before it collapsed. Suddenly he's governor of Texas, signing death warrants at a record pace. Then bingo, he's president, put there by a stolen election in which the pivotal state was run by his little brother, who devised a scheme to deprive tens of thousands of people who would have voted for his opponent of their right to vote. Then, bingo again, New York City is attacked and we have endless wars all over the world. Now that's what I call a resumé. No wonder the American media are so impressed. Kerry? Member of same disgusting and secretive college fraternity as George Bush who just recently discovered his name was not Kerry but Kohn, Jonah Kohn. Jewish on both sides of his family, but he let people think he was Irish for years and years in order, one might allege, to get elected in Irish Massachusetts. Campaigns as a war hero but his Army buddies felt the need to write a book about what a reckless faker he was, putting himself in for medals for minor incidents he himself precipitated and killing hapless Vietnamese civilians who couldn't fight back. Faked being an anti-war type in the '70s to get publicity, but later, after being elected senator, denied he ever meant it. But the topper for Kerry is what Sherman Skolnick reported: Kerry was on the plane that took Poppy Bush and his evil Republican retinue to Paris in 1980 to bribe the Iranians to keep the American hostages in prison until Reagan had won the election. Yes, the famous October Surprise. Let's hear it for the Democratic Party, Lori! You too, Frank! To read the entire article go to rense.com

To: Carolyn who wrote (40253)	8/4/2004 12:04:25 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81568

Bush did not report for duty during the middle 6-7 months of 1972 in Alabama and no one can vouch for him during that time period. Shortly after that he got off 8 months early to go to Harvard Business School. He was never disciplined for disappearing. This was not an issue until he decided to run for president. Reportedly, after that someone from the governor's office (Karen Hughes?) visited the Guard office in Texas and "cleansed" his records. AT issue was also GW's refusal to take a drug test which had become mandatory. He was known in those days to be a party boy and probably had cocaine in his system. There was even a lively rumor that Bush disappeared for 6 months after being arrested fof cocaine, and attending rehab to keep the bust confidential. A writer who dared to put this in a bio of Bush was found dead six months later, and his publisher was intimidated not to put out the book. The cause of death was called suicide, but you never know, do you?

To: Carolyn who wrote (40253)	8/5/2004 11:59:55 AM
From: Wayners	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

He wasn't AWOL. Its all a lie. I had to spend a lot of time to prove it but here it is: May 24, 1972 Bush given permission by TX ANG unit to drill in Alabama, so they don't expect him to be at drill in Texas. The transfer is approved on May 26th. There are no drills to attend in June and July because its a non drilling unit that he was approved to go to in writing. July 21, 1972 Guard renegs on his approval to drill at the 9921 Air Reserve Squadron, leaving Bush in limbo without orders anywhere. Remember he has already been released from the TX ANG so he can't drill there. Sep 5, 1972 Bush requests duty with the 187th Tac Recon Group, Montgomery, AL because the Guard has not come up with an assignment for him. So during August while in Alabama Bush was looking for a local unit he could possibly join. The Bush request is approved that same day. Oct 23-25, 1972 Bush drilled with 187th Tac Recon, AL Nov 11-14, 1972 bush drilled with 187th Tac Recon, AL Nov. 1972 Blount campaign ends. Bush returns to TEXAS and over the next month asks for orders to return to the TX ANG starting in January 1973. He then performs the following drills: Jan 4-6, 1973 Jan 8-10, 1973 Apr 7-8, 1973 May 01-03, 1973 May 8-10, 1973 May 19-20, 1973 May 22-24, 1973 May 29-31, 1973 Jun 5-7, 1973 Jun 23-24, 1973 Jul 2-3, 1973 Jul 5, 1973 Jul 9-12, 1973 Jul 16-19, 1973 Jul 21-22, 1973 Jul 23-27, 1973 Jul 30, 1973 Thats a total of 50 drill points for FY 1973--you only need 48. Its also 35 drill points for 1973. Notice all the make-up drills to make up for the Guard reneging on the orders to the 9921 unit. Where is the missing year? There isn't one. Don't believe the data, see usatoday.com which document every one of his drill participations. Especially see page 16 which lists drills performed and credited and clearly documented for late 1972. Nobody saw Bush in Alabama? Wrong. Joe LeFevers, a member of the 187th in 1972, said he remembers seeing Bush in unit offices and being told that Bush was in Montgomery to work on Blount's campaign. "I was going in the orderly room over there one day, and they said, 'This is Lt. Bush,'" LeFevers said Tuesday. "They pointed him out to me ... the reason I remember it is because I associate him with Red Blount." Released records also show Bush received a Dental Exam on base.