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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: LPS5 who wrote (7643)	8/4/2004 1:07:10 PM
From: Rock_nj	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20039

Do you - does anyone - have any credible documentation backing the assertion that WTC debris was "rushed away" and "melted quickly"? I've seen lots of allegations regarding this claim, but nothing substantive, either taking the form of news articles, reports, etc. I'll try to find links later, when I have time. But, I do remember from flight investigations and other disasters, they take pieces from the disaster and try to put them together in a hanger or warehouse. I know that wasn't done after 9/11. Which is very odd, considering the circumstances, you'd think they'd want to perserve at least part of the building in an effort to determine exactly what brought it down. I do remember TV stories about the debris being carted away to smelters in NJ. They just melted the evidence. There were a few stories about people who were carting it who tried to sneak away some metal to sell it for scrap themselves.

To: LPS5 who wrote (7643)	8/4/2004 2:19:29 PM
From: sea_urchin	Respond to of 20039

LPS5, here are a few links to the removal of debris from the WTC after 9-11. Whether they are credible or substantive, that I leave to you. american-buddha.com >>the WTC debris was removed as fast as possible and no forensic examination of the debris was permitted by the FBI or any other government agency. Almost all the 300,000 tons of steel from the Twin Towers was sold to New York scrap dealers and exported to places like China and Korea as quickly as it could be loaded onto the ships, thereby removing the evidence. See Debris Mountain Starts to Shrink, an article which shows that Controlled Demolition Inc. (a world leader in the demolition of tall buildings) was apparently keen to have the debris removed and disposed of as soon as possible and was able to come up with a detailed plan for doing so within eleven days of the collapse of the Twin Towers, suggesting that this company had detailed knowledge of the Twin Towers and the entire WTC complex prior to September 11th.<< serendipity.li >>This article provides important information for WTC demolition researchers, in particular because of the information about Controlled Demolition Inc., which (a) was apparently keen to have the debris removed and disposed of as soon as possible and (b) was able to come up with a detailed plan for doing so within eleven days of the collapse of the Twin Towers, suggesting that Controlled Demolition Inc. had detailed knowledge of the Twin Towers and the entire WTC complex prior to September 11th. The role of the U.S. Army in efforts to speed up the removal of the debris is also worth noting.<< serendipity.li >>SELLING THE EVIDENCE OVERSEAS Much of the structural steel from the WTC was sold to Alan D. Ratner of Metal Management of Newark, New Jersey, and the New York-based company Hugo Neu Schnitzer East. Ratner, who heads the New Jersey branch of the Chicago-based company, quickly sold the WTC steel to overseas companies, reportedly selling more than 50,000 tons of steel to a Shanghai steel company known as Baosteel for $120 per ton. Ratner paid about $70 per ton for the steel. Other shipments of steel from the WTC went to India and other Asian ports.<<