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To: stockman_scott who wrote (52773)8/4/2004 9:23:39 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Senator Kerry Retains A Lead Through His Convention, New Zogby Interactive Presidential Battleground Poll Reveals

Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry remains solidly in the lead after a week in which his party and candidacy grabbed the political spotlight at their national convention in Boston, a new edition of Zogby Interactive polls in 16 battleground states shows.

After a string of good news for the Kerry campaign stretching back to the selection of North Carolina Sen. John Edwards as the vice presidential running mate a month ago, he leads in the Electoral College by a 291-215 margin, the individual state polls shows. Four of the 16 states in the poll collection - with a combined total of 32 electoral votes - were excluded from the calculation because the races there are too close to call.

Those states are Missouri (11 votes), Nevada (5 votes), Tennessee (11 votes), and New Mexico (5 votes). Mr. Bush won all but New Mexico four years ago.

Mr. Kerry picked up ground in Florida, while Mr. Bush made up ground in West Virginia, Tennessee, and Ohio.



ZOGBY'S RACE SO FAR:
Aug. 3
Jul

26
Jul

10
Jun

20
Jun

6
May 23









President Bush
215
220
205
285
242
218

Senator Kerry
291
275
322
253
296
320


Please note that this chart reflects the race based on the premise that the 34 states not included in the poll will fall to the candidate of the same party to which they fell in 2000. This chart reflects only an estimation of where the Presidential race is, in part because the race in several states is within the margin of error. Four states are so close that their Electoral College votes are not included in this calculation. Those states are Missouri, Nevada, Tennessee, and New Mexico.



Mr. Kerry continues a strong season on the campaign trail as the war for the White House enters a new phase. In the past, Mr. Kerry had benefited not from the power of his own personality or compelling platform of programs, but rather by the political troubles Mr. Bush has suffered as Commander in Chief because of military setbacks in Iraq, or because of the sluggish economy, or by the electricity generated by the addition of John Edwards to the team.

This newest edition of the poll, however, comes as Mr. Kerry was the focus of a concentrated four-day program at the convention. There’s not much movement in the polls, but that wasn’t expected because there are abnormally low numbers of undecided voters in this race.

Republicans tried to push up expectations that Mr. Kerry would get a big bounce coming out of the convention so that later on, when that bounce didn’t materialize, it would reflect negatively on the Democratic nominee. It is still unclear whether that tactic worked.

The two candidates continued to canvass the nation raising boatloads of campaign cash, much of it for their political parties instead of their own campaigns, with the unspoken understanding that the parties would then turn around and spend that money advertising or otherwise aiding the election of their Presidential candidate. In battleground states this weekend, Mr. Kerry’s advertising campaign went off the air, and the next day, the Democratic National Committee’s slate of commercials began.

So intense is the battle in states like Ohio and Pennsylvania that the Bush and Kerry campaigns almost passed on Interstate 70 Saturday in western Pennsylvania, as Mr. Bush motored east after stumping in Cleveland, Canton, and Cambridge, Ohio, and Mr. Kerry was headed west to campaign in Zanesville, Ohio.

Their motorcades are so large and disruptive to highway traffic that it's
probably good news for the economy that they didn’t meet.



Pollster John Zogby: "Kerry had a good week and the numbers reflect it --especially in West Virginia, New Hampshire, and Florida. These represent his bump in the Electoral College. Meanwhile, President Bush has improved in a few states, notably Ohio where he has widened his lead. Ohio is a must win for Bush.

"These numbers track well with our national telephone sampling after the convention, where Kerry now leads by 5 points -- 48% to 43%.

"It will shortly be time for the Republicans to convene their convention in New York. The President will get a small bump, but -- like Kerry -- not a big one. There is just not enough give this year.”


zogby.com



To: stockman_scott who wrote (52773)8/4/2004 9:41:57 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Respond to of 89467
 
Forbes gives da Old Shrub it's "Seal of Approval"; rated at 8.5, Clinton a lowly 3.2.
Wait a minute. This game is like golf;Forbes burns da Bush.
I take comfort in the fact that it is just one more pinhead pinko lib rag. Oh, wait a minute. Forbes are Repub's; they play golf, what is explanitory for da left- handed score system.

Well, anyway, Shrub has restored honor and integrity to the WH.
If Old Bush is 8.5, Shrub should break 9.0... "That should show my old man"

Marcus Antonio Ratticus





Presidents And Prosperity
Dan Ackman, 07.20.04, 3:00 PM ET

The death of Ronald Reagan and the popularity of Bill Clinton's book have sparked an unusually intense interest in presidents past.

During the week of his funeral, several commentators declared Reagan the best president of the 20th century, even better than Franklin D. Roosevelt, whom Reagan himself admired. A recent Gallup Organization poll indicates that Americans rank John F. Kennedy slightly ahead of FDR, and both of them ahead of Reagan. Clinton supporters, meanwhile, note that he turned large federal deficits into surpluses and presided over a booming economy.

It's the kind of argument that will never be settled, like who was a better ballplayer, Willie Mays or Mickey Mantle. But we took a look at the numbers, and for the money, among presidents since World War II, Clinton scores highest.



Clinton's two terms in office (1993-2001) were marked by strong numbers for gross domestic product (GDP) and employment growth and especially for deficit reduction. His overall ranking puts him first among the ten postwar presidents--ahead of Lyndon B. Johnson, Kennedy and Reagan, who were tightly grouped behind the 42nd president and recent autobiographer.

Postwar Presidencies Ranked By Six Measures Of Economic Performance, Where 1 Is Best.
President Term Years In Office GDP Rank Real Disposable Personal Income Rank Employment Rank Unemployment Rank Inflation Rank Deficit Reduction Rank Average Rank
Bill Clinton 1993-2001 8 3 5 2 2 6 1 3.2
Lyndon B. Johnson November 1963-1969 5.1 1 1 5 3 8 4 3.7
John F. Kennedy 1961-November 1963 2.9 2 2 8 1 5 6 4.0
Ronald Reagan 1981-1989 8 5 4 3 4 2 8 4.3
Gerald R. Ford August 1974-1977 2.4 6 6 6 10 1 2 5.2
Jimmy Carter 1977-1981 4 4 8 1 5 10 7 5.8
Harry S. Truman April 1945-1953 7.8 9 9 7 6 3 3 6.2
Richard M. Nixon 1969-August 1974 5.6 7 3 4 8 9 9 6.7
Dwight D. Eisenhower 1953-1961 8 8 7 9 9 7 5 7.5
George H.W. Bush 1989-1993 4 10 10 10 7 4 10 8.5
GDP: Gross Domestic Product. Sources: U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, White House Office of Management and Budget

To create our rankings we looked at six measures of economic performance--GDP growth, per capita income growth, employment gains, unemployment rate reduction, inflation reduction and federal deficit reduction--for each of the ten postwar presidencies. For each measure we looked at whether the situation improved or got worse, and we ranked the presidents from 1 to 10. We then averaged the ranks to come up with a final score.

Click here for the complete underlying data.

To be sure, there is a sharp debate as to the ability of any president--or government--to control the economy. But that doesn't prevent the heads of Wall Street firms such as Merrill Lynch (nyse: MER - news - people ), Morgan Stanley (nyse: MWD - news - people ) and Citigroup (nyse: C - news - people ) from rooting for one candidate over another based on expectations of economic performance. Fairly or not, each president was judged by how much prosperity is delivered on his watch. Some presidents, it seems, have watched a lot more effectively than others. (We did not rank the current president, whose term is not yet over.)

Clinton campaigned on the economy and had remarkable success. GDP growth during his eight years averaged 3.5% per year, second only to the combined Kennedy/Johnson years and ahead of Jimmy Carter and Reagan. The economy also added jobs at a faster rate under Clinton than under any postwar president except Carter. For Carter, however, job growth merely matched an increase in the size of the labor force, while Clinton had much better luck curbing the unemployment rate as well. The result: The public's confidence in the economy hit an all-time high in the summer of 2000, near the end of Clinton's second term, according to Gallup. In the summer of 1992, before he was elected, it was at an all-time low.

The key to Clinton's success, says Alice Rivlin, a Brookings Institution scholar who served as his director of management and budget, was adhering to the "pay/go" agreement first forged by President George H. W. Bush and a Democratic Congress, whereby tax cuts or entitlement increases had to be funded on a current basis. She says Clinton raised taxes at just the right time--when incomes were starting to rise after years of stagnation--leading to a surge of receipts. The result was the smallest government in terms of its percentage of GDP since Johnson, and the first substantial budget surpluses since Harry S. Truman.

Johnson (1963-1969) ranks second-best overall, slightly ahead of Kennedy, some of whose economic policies he shepherded through Congress. LBJ was first in terms of both GDP growth and personal income growth. He was also among the best in reducing unemployment, lowering the jobless rate from 5.3% to 3.4%. But his time in office was also marked by a surge in inflation and government spending, which got worse under his successor Richard M. Nixon, who instituted wage and price controls with little success.

"The Vietnam War had the biggest impact [of any single factor under Johnson] both for good and for ill," says Charles Schultze, an economist at the Brookings Institution who worked in the Johnson and Carter administrations. Schultze says the Kennedy/Johnson tax cut helped the economy continue to grow in 1965 and 1966. But the failure to finance the war led to a surge in inflation that continued under Nixon. Despite these problems, the JFK/LBJ era, viewed as a whole, was the best of times.

Kennedy's presidency (1961-1963), truncated by his November 1963 assassination, ranks third behind LBJ's. Following the prosperous but slow-growth 1950s, Kennedy, like Clinton, campaigned on the idea of getting the company moving again. His most well-known economic legislative initiative, however, his 1964 tax cut, did not take effect until after he was dead.

Without a clear supply- or demand-side explanation for the boom, Walter Schubert, a finance professor at LaSalle University, suggests that JFK's impact was largely exhortatory: "My sense of Kennedy is that he inspired a lot of people to try things." While many businessmen feared his election, they responded to his energy. In any event, GDP growth averaged nearly 5% during his term and he ranks first in reducing the unemployment rate.

Reagan (1981-1989) ranks just after Kennedy, his success highlighted by his halving of the inflation rate. Veronique de Rugy, a research fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, says the key to Reagan's record was urging spending cuts to finance tax cuts and an increase in defense spending. "This is the only instance where we see this type of behavior where we have a president who understands you can't have it all," she says. Reagan's first term, marred by a nasty recession, was not stellar, despite a sharp reduction in inflation caused by U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker's dramatic shift in monetary policy, which started under Carter. Reagan's second term, though, was very strong.

The Ford and Carter years (1974-1981) are widely recalled as a time of economic disaster. But by the numbers they were middling, not awful. Most surprising is that Carter ranks first in job creation as 10 million jobs were added during his four years in office, more on an annualized basis than Clinton or Reagan. But because the labor force was expanding at the same time, led by an increasing number of women working outside the home, the rate of unemployment barely budged. Gerald R. Ford ranks first for controlling inflation, cutting 3.4% off the rate during his brief two-and-a-half-year term.

The situation got much worse under Carter, in large part because of the oil embargo imposed by the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries and resultant price shocks. But Carter appointed Volcker, whose monetary policies at the Fed eventually stemmed the inflationary tide.

Of the ten postwar presidents, the first President Bush brings up the rear. He ranks dead last for both GDP growth and income growth and also ballooned the deficit at a rate faster than every president but Ford. His one modest success was continuing the dramatic drop in inflation that had started under Reagan. LaSalle's Schubert notes that Bush had "some bad luck," in that the post-Gulf War recovery was too late and too tepid to aid his reelection prospects. But Schubert faults Bush for a lack of perceptible economic policy of any kind, good or bad.

Additional reporting by Mark Hazlin.


forbes.com