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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: JakeStraw who wrote (17528)8/5/2004 10:47:06 AM
From: jttmab  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976
 
The non-partisan GlobalSecurity.org site lists the following as current forces in Iraq or immediate surrounds:

I wouldn't say that's the right list to use. Countries like Japan didn't send in any forces for the invasion of Iraq, they followed up much later as a contributing peacekeeping force. The list of countries should be those countries that contributed troops to the initial military action, not the peacekeeping force.

Setting aside the blatant re-definition of ''unilateral'' from ''done or undertaken by one person or party'' to ''doing something without the approval of France, Germany, Russia, or China,'' let’s put the war in Iraq into historical context.

I'd prefer not to set that aside...since it's wrong. You'll note that there was not a UN vote taken to invade Iraq.

He later makes the point....

The numbers indicate that, without United Nations approval, the United States has more allied countries and more troop support than we had with United Nations approval in Korea. Yet I have never read criticism of the United States for acting unilaterally in Korea.

Well...duh...that was the difference. In the case of Iraq, there was no UN approval, while in Korea there was UN approval. Consequently, Iraq is viewed as a unilateral action by the US and Korea was not.

jttmab



To: JakeStraw who wrote (17528)8/5/2004 11:43:18 AM
From: Don Earl  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976
 
Why is it you Zionist radicals can't argue any point without trying to justify it by other past mistakes? 10 homeless people from a hand full of third world countries hardly makes up a "collition".

Why not make a case based on the failed policy to invade Cuba?

You may find the declassified Project NorthWoods documents here:

emperors-clothes.com

A very 9/11-ish false flag operation proposed in order to start the Cuban war. Unfortunately for the terrorists of your ilk at the time, Kennedy refused to turn traitor and approve the program. The bottom line is that in over 40 years, and in spite of criminally insane individuals in government who suffer from paranoid delusions, Cuba has posed no threat to the US whatsoever.

In the mean time, US tax payers are still spending billions a year to keep troops in Korea, for a war that never officially ended, and with virtually nothing to show for 50 years of name calling.

A person would have to be a child to believe peace is a permanent condition. A mature adult has to be ready, willing and able to fight if necessary. But only a fool fights when there is nothing to win.



To: JakeStraw who wrote (17528)8/5/2004 2:44:52 PM
From: Suma  Respond to of 173976
 
Trouble is that the Korean War was a lost cause too. It never really accomplished what we had hoped it would. And many good men gave their lives to have it happen.

As far as troop numbers. Since we .. the U.S. initially instigated the war it necessitates that we provide the most troops..