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To: Andrew N. Cothran who wrote (3545)	8/5/2004 1:03:00 PM
From: Carolyn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4965

From Wayne, on the Kerry thread, re: Bush's National Guard record He wasn't AWOL. Its all a lie. I had to spend a lot of time to prove it but here it is: May 24, 1972 Bush given permission by TX ANG unit to drill in Alabama, so they don't expect him to be at drill in Texas. The transfer is approved on May 26th by 9921st. There are no drills to attend in June and July because its a non drilling unit that he was approved to go to in writing. See pg. 9 of usatoday.com. for the request to train in AL. His TX ANG unit the 11th FIG knew about AL. See pg. 10 for the APPROVAL for Bush to serve with the 9921, non drilling unit in AL. usatoday.com. July 21, 1972 Guard renegs on his approval to drill at the 9921 Air Reserve Squadron, leaving Bush in limbo without orders anywhere. Remember he has already been released from the TX ANG so he can't drill there. see pg. 5 of usatoday.com. Sep 5, 1972 Bush requests duty with the 187th Tac Recon Group, Montgomery, AL because the Guard has not come up with an assignment for him. So during August while in Alabama Bush was looking for a local unit he could possibly join. The Bush request is approved that same day. see pg. 8, usatoday.com. Oct 23-25, 1972 Bush drilled with 187th Tac Recon, AL Nov 11-14, 1972 bush drilled with 187th Tac Recon, AL see pg. 16 of usatoday.com Nov. 1972 Blount campaign ends. Bush returns to TEXAS and over the next month asks for orders to return to the TX ANG starting in January 1973. He then performs the following drills: Jan 4-6, 1973 Jan 8-10, 1973 Apr 7-8, 1973 May 01-03, 1973 May 8-10, 1973 May 19-20, 1973 May 22-24, 1973 May 29-31, 1973 Jun 5-7, 1973 Jun 23-24, 1973 Jul 2-3, 1973 Jul 5, 1973 Jul 9-12, 1973 Jul 16-19, 1973 Jul 21-22, 1973 Jul 23-27, 1973 Jul 30, 1973 Thats a total of 50 drill points for FY 1973--you only need 48. Its also 35 drill points for 1973. Notice all the make-up drills to make up for the Guard reneging on the orders to the 9921 unit. Where is the missing year? There isn't one. Nobody saw Bush in Alabama? Wrong. Joe LeFevers, a member of the 187th in 1972, said he remembers seeing Bush in unit offices and being told that Bush was in Montgomery to work on Blount's campaign. "I was going in the orderly room over there one day, and they said, 'This is Lt. Bush,'" LeFevers said Tuesday. "They pointed him out to me ... the reason I remember it is because I associate him with Red Blount." Released records also show Bush received a Dental Exam on base.

To: Andrew N. Cothran who wrote (3545)	8/5/2004 1:21:39 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4965

The SwiftVets are using Soviet Style smear propaganda. Or if you like, Nazi style or Saddam style. What they are putting out there is 100% false, not even a shred of truth to any of it. This kind of thing only belongs in a totalitarian state where the one-party governent is trying to destroy anyone who threatens its total power. The Lee Atwater school of rightwing dirty tricks politics is not as different from the old Nazi tactics as you think. That is one of the things which sets off alarms all over the country. The worst part is, they used 9-11 to try and make their extremist moves.