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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (142758)	8/7/2004 5:23:21 AM
From: spiral3	Respond to of 281500

I'm enacting a revolution which will supersede them all [Ted, George, Osama, Helengrad etc]. Things are going very well. The problem with Re volution is that it never ends, it's always just another brick in the wall, and what it takes to build it so is a re volition. No wonder we're stuck with evolution. When he said I think therefore I am, Gautama should have just said...you R, now show that to me, and we can be done. The funny thing It appears to be, is that even to this day modern medical science doesn't know what is in the pineal gland, so Des was having an I llusion when he said that. Seems to me.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (142758)	8/7/2004 2:17:22 PM
From: spiral3	Respond to of 281500

there is a teleological aspect to proceedings which makes me think my simian Sier colleagues, wonderful though they are, are unlikely to be the end-stage of evolutionary trends. Maurice that is not true, quite clearly, and is unlikely so, because things that look like something are nothing. If they didn't look like something you would have nothing so be grateful

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (142758)	8/8/2004 10:08:04 AM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

my simian Sier colleagues, wonderful though they are, are unlikely to be the end-stage of evolutionary trends. End-stage evolutionary success is not assured, just ask dinosaurs. In fact, our so-called evolutionary success may ultimately lead to the death of our species so that truly successful species, like insects, bacteria, algae, and other microbes, can take over. Our species may simply be an interesting aberration. I lean towards this view. There's more to life than being a smart human who can play chess while driving a car and laughing at a movie, while making the movie and writing the poetry going into it. Why on Earth would It want to do that? Because it is a challenge It may never surpass. Our spectacular ability to process information in parallel is what defines us. It will be a bore until it can perform simple parallel functions at the level of a three-year old. It will do a lot of things better than humans, but will perhaps never learn to associate the importance of one with the irony of something completely unrelated to the beauty of another. You would never invite It to dinner or smoke a leisurely cigar while drinking a bit of Scotland's best with it. It would cull the deficient young, the sick old, set the thermostat at 45 degrees F. in winter and at 95 degrees in Summer, insist you eat your vegetables and ram them down your throat if you refused, etc. Buth there is hope. I think QCOM is working on parallel pilot codes, a good first step. VBG. We will truly be god-like should the ability to massively process in parallel is ever perfected, but the technology is daunting. Won't happen for a very long time, perhaps ever, particularly since we are hell-bent on destroying our evolutionary prospects.