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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (601278)8/7/2004 1:22:09 PM
From: TideGlider  Respond to of 769670
 
That is interesting. Bet Duray hates that lol He was very outspoken about it in the past.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (601278)8/7/2004 1:26:39 PM
From: steve dietrich  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
Like the Dem's have said, it's a State Issue.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (601278)8/7/2004 1:28:36 PM
From: John Carragher  Respond to of 769670
 
Presidential hopeful Ralph Nader dismissed critics on the left as part of a "liberal intelligentsia that agrees with almost all our positions." Unlike his rivals for the presidency, Nader supports gay marriage.


Analysis

Nader's support of gay marriage sets him apart

Activists say they're disappointed by Kerry, Edwards

By Chuck Raasch / Gannett News Service

Charles Krupa / Associated Press

Sen. John Kerry supports civil unions for gay couples, but opposes gay marriage. For voters who support gay marriage, his position could seem like a sellout.


Related reports

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Gay marriage splits nation - 02/25/04
Opinion polls mixed - 02/25/04

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WASHINGTON — Liberal activists have urged allies on the left to ignore Ralph Nader’s bid for president to concentrate opposition to George W. Bush. But Nader favors gay marriage, an issue that energizes many liberals but is opposed by the leading Democratic contenders for president.

Whether that schism peels votes away from the Democrats in the November election is impossible to predict. But the differences could pose a tough choice for voters who believe that the time for gay marriage has arrived, and see in Nader the only candidate advancing the position.

The Democratic front-runners, Sens. John Kerry of Massachusetts and John Edwards of North Carolina, say that while they support civil unions for gay couples, they oppose granting them the right to marry. The issue has come to the fore this month with a Massachusetts Supreme Court ruling favoring same-sex marriage and the city of San Francisco’s decision to grant gay couples marriage licenses.

Bush, like Kerry, has said he believes marriage is between a man and woman. Some conservatives support a federal constitutional amendment saying that.

On NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday, Nader said, “of course,” when moderator Tim Russert asked if he’d support gay couples marrying.

“Love and commitment is not exactly in surplus in this country,” Nader said. “The main tragedy, what undermines marriage, is divorce.”

Winnie Stachelberg, political director for the Human Rights Campaign, the nation’s largest gay rights organization, said Monday that while the positions of Kerry and Edwards “disappointed” many gay activists, “many gay voters are looking for a real change in the leadership and direction of this country.” She predicted they would coalesce around the Democratic nominee.

But for voters who support gay marriage, the support for civil unions by the likely Democratic nominees could seem like a sellout, now that San Francisco has pushed the issue of marriage.

In California, support for gay marriage rose from 38 percent in January 2000 to 44 percent this month, according to a poll released last week by the Public Policy Institute of California. But among Democrats, the rise was even higher: 57 percent said same-sex couples should be allowed to marry, up from 49 percent in 2000.

“We don’t really know how this will play out between now and November, but it is an issue that could come back to help Ralph Nader and hurt the potential Democratic nominee,” Public Policy survey director Mark Baldassare said.

Nader, a Green Party candidate in 2000, announced Sunday he would run for president as an independent. Many Democrats still blame Nader for siphoning off just enough votes in Florida and New Hampshire in 2000 to give Bush the presidency over then-Vice President Al Gore.

Nader has always argued that Gore beat himself by running a poor campaign, and that many of the 2.8 million Americans who voted for Nader three years ago would otherwise not have voted. Nader dismissed critics on the left as part of a “liberal intelligentsia that agrees with almost all our positions.”

Liberal activists argue that anti-Bush unity is stronger now than in 2000 and would trump differences on issues like gay marriage.

“Ralph Nader’s friends across the country realize that friends don’t let friends help President Bush’s irresponsible agenda,” said Toby Chaudhuri, communications director for the liberal Campaign for America’s Future.