Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : SI Member Vote 2004/SubjectMarks Only For Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: MKTBUZZ who wrote (217)	8/8/2004 10:26:44 PM
From: Cisco	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 812

terrymeiners.com

To: MKTBUZZ who wrote (217)	8/8/2004 11:08:54 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 812

ON F-911: "It’s Accurate To A Degree" is the article you quote from the Seattle paper. That is my consensus as well. Moore came close to lying without actually ever lying. The same thing Bush does in all his speeches by the way and in all his anti Kerry Tv ads. Bush claiming Kerry voted against body armor for the troops or against protecting pregnant women goes beyond anything Moore did in his film. Just patently untrue. Just the opposite in fact. What is questionable and what you list as "lies" are really just inferences. Also, you call Moore a liar for taking a sentence out of a speech of Condi Rice. But the whole Bush campaign attack on Kerry is based on this same method. "I voted for the 87 billion before I voted against it". If you look at the whole truth it's very pro-Kerry. You take the one line only it sounds silly and dishonest. But who is the real dishonest one? Also Kerry's 1971 testimony. Take two senten ces out and it makes Kerry look anti-soldier. read the whole speeech and he's a brave champion of the poor fighting men stuck in Nam trying to defend them from the dishonest policy-makers. You also use semantics, such as whether Bin Laudens were "questioned" or Interviewed". How about "INTERROGATED"? Why didn't they interrogate the hell out of them? Got an answer for that? You also dismiss Bushes and Bin Laudens being in business togther by stating that just because Bath is a Bin lauden money man in Texas his investment in Harken doesn't necessarily mean anything. True, but has the White House ever denied it? They certainly cannot deny the many ties between the Bushes and Bin Laudens. Bin Lauden is the Halliburton of Saudi Arabia and Bush-cheney are the Halliburton of the USA. So what if George Soros invested in Carlyle? Anyone can with enough money. Just proves he's no left-winger as the Bushies are claiming. doesn't mean the Bushes and Bin laudens weren't in the same investment group working together. Carlyle is a very fishy organization. Way too much power over our government. What if Kerry had business interests with the Hussein family? How would the RNC handle that one? The most damning truths in Moore's film you don't mention. The 7 minute delay before Bush doing anything after the WTC was attacked, the FBi claims that Ashcroft told them to ignore terrorism and Rice and Powell both saying Saddam was no longer a threat to us. Those are my top three most damaging parts to Bush's credibility. Moore never said Bush invaded AFGH because of the Unocal pipeline, he just made a swipe and used it as a fishy thing. He also said the US public would not have standed for Bush not to invade AFGH. You have to admit, Bush sure switched attention to Iraq fast after 9-11, didn't he? And what was that cease fire at Tora Bora all about? Where there's smoke there's fire is what Moore is saying. And Iraq has the big oilfields which Texas oilmen lusted for. The administration has always overstated the link between Saddam and terrorism and 9-11. Saddam was a very bad guy with some minor terrorist ties, but he wasn't even in the top 5 in terms of terrorist promoting countries. Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Yemen, Somalia, Sudan even Saudi Arabia are higher up. Al Qaida was not in Iraq. They opposed Saddam. Did Iraq ever attack the US? No. They talked about it but they were always full of BS so why use them as a reference? I could go on but I don't have time. Clearly Moore insinuated some very unlikely things and painted Bush with too broad a brush but factually I still don't see one untrue statement or fact in the film. And you ignore some of the shattering true things he states and insinuates for which the Bushies have little or no explanation. "Didn't want to scare the children" is an absurd girlie man excuse for not getting up to defend the country. Finally, half the film is about average people affected by the war. That's all 100% true.

To: MKTBUZZ who wrote (217)	8/9/2004 11:48:03 AM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 812

USA Today Exposes Shifty-Vets as Liars Brigade: usatoday.com

To: MKTBUZZ who wrote (217)	8/9/2004 7:54:43 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 812

Quit LYING about Kerry's Purple Hearts. The newspapers have all printed the fact that the ShiftyVets so-called Medic who claims to have treated Kerry wasn't the one who treated him at all. Furthermore, the lie that Kerry somehow injured himself is not just preposterous it means you're calling all of Kerry's crewmen and the Navy all liars. It also makes no sense. When you're in combat the last thing you care about is getting a frigging Purple Heart. In fact it's the last thing you want. This outrageously dishonest smear campaign has to stop. USA Today, a very neutral newspaper, nailed the ShiftyVets this morning. So did McCain. The slimeballs have utterly no credibility. Just a bunch of angry, hateful rightwing extremists who will say or make up anything in a futile effort to spit on and slander a true war hero. Same thing the bastards did to McCain in 2000 and Cleland in 2002. Just pure political pornography. Dishonest and dishonable.

To: MKTBUZZ who wrote (217)	8/9/2004 8:37:59 PM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 812

AWOLBUSH.com - you need to educate yourself We know you have an irrational love for Bush but when you criticize a war hero like Kerry's military record (using complete lies to do it) you seem to forget that Bush-Cheney are both draftodgers, Bush also went AWOL and Bush also lied about it. At least Cheney was honest and said he had "better things to do" than fight in a war. And DElay was honest and said "there are plenty of minorities who can go instead of me". But Bush pretended he was serving militarily and ready to go into combat. He wasn't. He hid and he ran.