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To: Noel de Leon who wrote (142899)8/9/2004 2:40:13 PM
From: Noel de Leon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Differences
1) Knowledge of each other. Iraqis know a great deal about the West. More than we know about the Arab world. Many speak English and French, are educated in the West, see American films on TV, and have learned about the West in School.
2) Free education and health services. All Iraqis had these services prior to the invasion. A similar system is not to be found in the USA.
3) Classes in society. There were very few poor in Iraq prior to the invasion. In fact there was a very large middle class which was based on a welfare society. A welfare society doesn't exist in the US.
4) Civilization: USA's civilization is based on about 2,000 years of civilization, Iraq's on 7,000 years.
5) De facto military strength, military spending is more than 300 times greater than Iraq's.



To: Noel de Leon who wrote (142899)8/9/2004 3:18:07 PM
From: spiral3  Respond to of 281500
 
The point is that these similarities are not discussed in the media or by politicians.

because really there is nothing to discuss.



To: Noel de Leon who wrote (142899)8/10/2004 10:45:03 AM
From: spiral3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
The point is that these similarities are not discussed in the media or by politicians.

Noel, I just looked at your post again and something struck me about the way we build our knowledge of things. It has to do with making unseen subjective judgements unawares, and then becoming aware of these distictions, with making mistakes early on that lead to complications down the road. The reason that you don’t see these all these similarities being discussed, is because ceteris paribus, there is one condition that in terms of proximity to the point of causal motivation, might be considered vital, in virtue by which I mean that this is the spot where the matter of degree really counts. If this is true, it would make this thing a more of a difference, than a similarity, in which case it would be in the wrong column so to speak. This is what makes the art of economic hypothesis so tricky, we land up with a lot of lousy theories that don’t find what we are looking for. Lots of treasure gets wasted this way. Again ceteris paribus I think that this is more of a difference than a similarity, and it points to precisely why there is so much discussion, I think that this is self evident.

USA and Iraq
Both are monotheistic and their monotheism is based on one truth which leads to a low tolerance for the "other".