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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (43012)8/14/2004 3:30:32 PM
From: bentwayRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
CYBERKEN has just recently been banned, in the effort to make Bush and his supporters look something near "normal"!



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (43012)8/14/2004 3:36:07 PM
From: Patricia TrincheroRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 81568
 
MKTBUZZ banned me for a couple days then allowed me back on..............I never did post there again and feel it's good riddance.

It's too annoying to communicate with those guys.

A wise man once said," If you argue with idiots it soon becomes too difficult to tell who's who!"



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (43012)8/14/2004 3:45:18 PM
From: JBTFDRespond to of 81568
 
Wow. They finally banned CYBERKEN. I'm impressed.

He is one of the worst hate speech people I've seen.



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (43012)8/14/2004 3:59:15 PM
From: SiouxPalRespond to of 81568
 
Hey guys! Let's not forget our other ace in the whole this election!

salon.com

Sioux



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (43012)8/15/2004 6:56:47 AM
From: stockman_scottRespond to of 81568
 
Younger Voters Rapidly Deserting Bush
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By Richard Morin and Christopher Muste
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, August 15, 2004

Mounting concerns over the war and the sluggish economy have sent President Bush's popularity plummeting among young adults in the past four months, complicating his bid for reelection and challenging Republicans to increase their efforts to win over new or lightly committed young voters.

Four years ago, network exit polls found that Bush and Democrat Al Gore split the vote of 18-to-29-year-olds, with Gore claiming 48 percent and Bush getting 46 percent -- the best showing by a Republican presidential candidate in more than a decade.

But that was then. In the latest Post-ABC News poll, taken immediately after the Democratic National Convention, Kerry led Bush 2 to 1 among registered voters younger than 30. Among older voters, the race was virtually tied. About 1 in 6 voters in 2000 was between 18 and 29 years old.

Tyler McLaughlin, 27, of Georgetown, Tex., did not vote four years ago but supported Bush during the first years of his presidency. "But after two years of war, I became anti-Bush," said McLaughlin, a project scheduler for a computer firm. "This seemed like a guy . . . who made a decision and won't go back on it."

Bush's problems with younger voters began long before the Democratic convention, Post-ABC polls suggest. The last time Bush and Kerry were tied among the under-30 crowd was in April. In the five surveys since then, Bush has trailed Kerry by an average of 18 percentage points.

Virtually every other major poll conducted in the past month confirms Kerry's popularity with voters under the age of 30. A poll by the Pew Center for the People & the Press released Thursday reported Kerry still ahead by 18 points among this group.

Taken together, those surveys suggest that if the election were held today, Bush would do about as well among younger voters as GOP presidential candidate Robert J. Dole in 1996. Dole lost to President Bill Clinton by 53 percent to 34 percent among 18-to-29-year-olds. Bush's father split the young vote in 1988 and lost to Clinton by nine points in 1992. The Reagan era marked the recent high-water mark for the GOP with younger voters, who gave the Gipper his biggest victory margin of any age group in 1984.

The latest Post-ABC News survey found that Kerry consistently topped Bush by double-digit margins as the candidate young adults trusted to deal with every major issue, including the economy, Iraq, education and health care. The Democrat also was viewed by substantial margins as best able to handle taxes and the campaign against terrorism, issues where Bush still had an advantage among all voters.

The issues motivating younger voters are not much different from those on the minds of all Americans. The war in Iraq and the economy lead their list of top voting concerns in recent Post-ABC News surveys -- not surprising, because it is mostly young people who are fighting in Iraq and hustling to keep or find jobs in this uncertain economy. Education ranks somewhat higher as a voting issue among younger voters, not unexpected either, since many of them are just out of school or are still in college.

One surprise: The campaign against terrorism is less of a voting issue for younger voters than for the rest of the country. In the most recent Post-ABC poll, 9 percent of all 18-to-29-year-olds rated it as their top voting concern, compared with 20 percent of all voters.

"The war -- definitely," Becky Hibma, 24, a homemaker in Dorr, Mich., said when asked her top voting issue. Hibma says she is concerned about terrorism. But for her, Iraq is the more immediate and tangible problem. "It could have been handled very differently. We jumped in too quickly. . . . A little more thinking would have been great."

Still, she says she is torn between the two candidates. She's "more Bush" at the moment, largely because of the president's leadership after Sept. 11, 2001. "But there are days when I totally agree with everything Kerry says."

washingtonpost.com