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To: i-node who wrote (197715)8/15/2004 1:29:50 AM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1586256
 
" BUT ONLY if the recipient made enough money to exceed the substantially increased exemption allowance as well as a sizable standard deduction."

Bovine excrement. I was single and newly unemployed the year that the tax code was in force. I had just gotten to about $20k per year when my job was riffed in June of that year. I exhausted my unemployment(a max. of $150 every two weeks), in Texas 6 months max., and didn't find a job until Feb. of the next year. I still had to cut a check for almost $1k for my unemployment. Remember, Texas isn't known for its generous unemployment benefits. Try some real facts, ok? I know it isn't your strong point, but...

Yeah. I'll remember that income averaging isn't needed for the future. Tell that to Ten, ok? While I can think of a lot of times when it could have been an advantage to me, I have your word that it could have been worse...

Nothing you cited would have affected the upwardly mobile. I was very much upwardly mobile during that time period. and after graduation I plan on continuing. My income went from $9k, when I graduated in 1979 to about $90k in 2002 when I decided to go back to school. Income averaging would have helped me a lot. The post-Reagan tax code cost me. I didn't complain because I thought it my due, but to claim I was better off is total nonsense...



To: i-node who wrote (197715)8/15/2004 3:15:38 AM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1586256
 
Don't blame the liberals for this one...

I certainly DO blame the liberals. The Internal Revenue Code of 1986 reduced rates, but also eliminated huge deductions (so-called "loopholes"). This was an agreed-upon tradeoff -- give up the deductions, reduce the rates. Read the Congressional committee reports on the Act (I have). What happened? Clinton takes office, up go the rates, but the deductions are gone. The American People are screwed, once again, by the liberals.


I think we need a Chavez to run for president.........really get you righties all worked up! ;~)



To: i-node who wrote (197715)8/15/2004 3:26:46 AM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1586256
 
Chavez Camp Accuses U.S. of Pushing for His Recall

By Ken Silverstein And Carol J. Williams
Times Staff Writers

August 13, 2004

CARACAS, Venezuela — As this bitterly divided nation approaches a vote Sunday on whether to recall populist President Hugo Chavez, he and his supporters are accusing Washington of interfering in Venezuela's affairs by providing about $2 million to opposition groups.

Grants from the National Endowment for Democracy to more than a dozen organizations over two years account for only a fraction of opposition funding. But because some members of the U.S.-supported groups have ties to the opponents who briefly deposed Chavez in April 2002, the former paratrooper contends that the funding backs another effort to oust him.

"Washington has been financing the opposition with millions, including for this referendum," Chavez said during a news conference Thursday at the presidential palace.

Chavez won the presidency in December 1998, and his rule has polarized this country, one of the world's largest oil producers. After the 2002 coup and a two-month national strike failed, opponents changed strategy to focus on a recall campaign. This spring, they submitted 2.5 million signatures, slightly more than the 20% of registered voters required to trigger a recall.

The Venezuela Solidarity Committee, a New York-based nonprofit group, obtained several thousand pages of documents on NED programs in Venezuela under the Freedom of Information Act and provided them to the Los Angeles Times and other media.

At issue is whether the endowment strayed from its mandate to support the development of democracy by assisting nonpartisan grass-roots organizations. The NED technically is a private organization, but it receives most of its budget — about $80 million this year — from Congress and other taxpayer-financed sources.

Chris Sabatini, the NED's director for Latin American programs, defended the endowment funding and denied that it was aimed at destabilizing Chavez's government. He said the group was trying to promote dialogue in Venezuela and opposed any unconstitutional actions against Chavez.

"In a situation of political polarization, if you want to pull people back from the brink of conflict, you have to work with people at the brink," Sabatini said.

Chavez supporters see more ominous intentions.

"The NED says its goal is to build democracy, but it is giving money to people who were key players in the coup and who are trying to oust a democratically elected president," said Deborah James of the Washington-based Venezuela Information Office.

One grant of $42,000 went to a group called Leadership and Vision to train Caracas police "in democratic rights and responsibilities, and the peaceful resolution of conflict."

Though he described the NED contribution as "totally insignificant," the group's leader, economist Gerver Torres, said the training project "should have been welcomed by a government committed to the public's interests." The private, nonprofit group aims to educate voters and encourage broader participation in the country's decision-making, he said.

But Chavez supporters say that some members of the capital's police force, under the control of an opposition mayor, supported the coup. And Oscar Garcia Mendoza, who signed Leadership and Vision's grant agreement with the NED, also signed a newspaper advertisement two days after Chavez's brief ouster that declared "unconditional support" for the coup government.

Join Up, another group that received NED funding, said the money it received was spent on voter education and activities that equally benefited the pro- and anti-Chavez camps. Join Up said it received $35,000; the NED grant lists it as $54,000.

"None of this was hidden from anyone. We are extremely transparent," said one of the group's leaders, Alejandro Plaz. He denied the government charge that Maria Corina Machado, another leader of the group, attended the swearing-in of Pedro Carmona, the oil executive who replaced Chavez until an uprising of the poor restored him to power.

Late last month, government prosecutors here announced that they were investigating Machado on conspiracy charges for having accepted NED funding. Chavez supporters accuse Join Up of being openly hostile to Chavez. The group's website says it "collected and processed signatures" in support of a recall vote.

The grant agreement between the group and the NED lists promoting support for the recall referendum as a "project objective."

Some recipients, such as the avidly anti-Chavez political party Justice First, make no pretense of being nonpartisan. Several prominent members of the party supported the coup leaders. One of them, Leopoldo Martinez, was finance minister in the coup government.

The NED also has given money to a conservative think tank known as CEDICE to help it draft "a viable [opposition] agenda." Rocío Guijarro, the group's general manager, signed the coup decree that abolished Venezuela's Constitution, Supreme Court and National Assembly. Several members of CEDICE's project advisory committee attended Carmona's swearing-in.

"In principle, NED is an independent tool to promote democracy, but in practice it has been a weapon for regime change against governments the U.S. deems as undesirable," said Peter Kornbluh, a Latin America policy specialist at the National Security Archives, a nonprofit research group in Washington. "Its actions are particularly controversial in Venezuela, where the regime is democratically elected."

Chavez says Venezuela's oil wealth should fund relief for the poor, and his power base is estimated by pollsters to be about 30% of the nation's 25 million people. A roughly equal share of middle class and elite despise Chavez, saying he has steered the economy down a path of communist-style revolution that has reduced per capita income, foreign investment and employment.

Until Chavez's tenure, the United States had enjoyed close relations with Venezuela. According to the Energy Department, the South American country has 77.8 billion barrels of proven oil reserves, the most in the Western Hemisphere. It accounts for about one-eighth of U.S. oil imports.

One point of contention has been Chavez's role at the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries, where he has fought to maintain production quotas and keep oil prices high. Before his election, Venezuela regularly exceeded its OPEC production targets, the Energy Department said.

The White House initially endorsed the 2002 coup, but it backed off after 19 Latin American countries condemned it.

A State Department inspector general report subsequently concluded that the Bush administration did not have advance knowledge of the coup and "worked to support democracy and constitutionality in Venezuela." However, the report said the U.S. was in close contact with Chavez's opponents and that its "displeasure with certain of President Chavez's policies, actions and relationships was well-known by his opponents in Caracas." Chavez has a close relationship with Cuban leader Fidel Castro.

The inspector general found that the NED and other U.S. assistance programs "provided training, institution building, and other support to individuals and organizations understood to be actively involved in the brief ouster of the Chavez government." The report found no evidence that the NED's support "directly contributed, or was intended to contribute," to the coup.

latimes.com