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To: LindyBill who wrote (60978)	8/17/2004 12:35:20 AM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793600

LB, Buy it and overnite to me. I will pay for the book, shipping, moped gas, and two beers on wacky wacky beach. uw

To: LindyBill who wrote (60978)	8/17/2004 1:23:50 AM
From: haqihana	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793600

Lindy, The Naval officers over Kerry, and the other crew men of the Swift Boats, wanted Kerry to get out of country, because he was the proverbial "loose cannon on deck". That's what he will be for the whole nation if he is elected.

To: LindyBill who wrote (60978)	8/17/2004 2:01:51 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793600

They Swift vets group really got going the last few years. When they all started comparing notes, and comparing their experiences with Kerry's statements, it became clear just how outrageous his behavior was. O'Neil put it all together for the first time. It was a uncompleted jig-saw puzzle until then. Thanks, that information was new to me.

To: LindyBill who wrote (60978)	8/17/2004 8:45:27 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793600

I am still having a hard time grasping the Cambodia issue. I am fairly certain that we had troops in Cambodia at times we said that we did not. I have been told this by people who said they were there -- on helicopters, not boats. Is the issue that Kerry says he was there at a time when he was not there? It seems sort of a non-starter -- nobody was supposed to be there at that time. How can you prove someone was NOT involved in covert operations? I don't think that has ever been doable in the court of public opinion. People in general are very credulous. It seems like resume-padding. Compared to some of the other things Kerry has done, and gotten away with, I will be surprised if the major media take him to task for anything more than telling exaggerated war stories.

To: LindyBill who wrote (60978)	8/17/2004 11:02:20 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793600

I have been listening to more talk radio these days, since the topic is the election, primarily the Swift Boat Vets allegations. Only in the car, the concept of listening to the radio in the house doesn't do it for me. I just listened to Laura Ingram, whom I almost never listen to, and she was talking about Chris Matthews and Bill O'Reilly reacting negatively to the Swift Boat Vets -- it seems like everybody is claiming that the Swift Boat Vets are actually working for Bush. I take them at their word, they're working against Kerry. That might be naive on my part, but I understand the concept of revenge very well, Kerry treated them badly and they have been waiting for payback for a long time. The Swift Boat Vets are getting a lot of play in blogdom and on talk radio, but not much breakout into the mainstream press, although more than I would have thought -- even in the WashPost and NYTimes, if only to diss them. Why are O'Reilly and Matthews so down on them? I don't remember them being so down on other 527 groups, even the outrageous ones like MoveOn and the others that George Soros funds. Nobody says George Soros is undermining democracy, nobody says MoveOn is undermining democracy. This is a paradigm example of power to the people, seems to me. Their reaction reminds me of how the Catholic Church reacted when the Protestants started translating the Bible into the vernacular and printing copies for everybody.