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To: Lane3 who wrote (61026)	8/17/2004 8:03:19 AM
From: John Carragher	Respond to of 793620

I don't believe kerry set out to get three purple hearts to use a loophole of getting out of nam. i do think he pushed when injured to get these purple hearts. I remember reading Kerry was told three purple hearts get you out of nam after his third and his commander strongly suggested he leave. I doubt he gave a big argument about staying.

To: Lane3 who wrote (61026)	8/17/2004 8:45:38 AM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793620

On a related subject, perhaps you could address for me from the perspective of your military-oriented ethics and discipline and patriotism your recommendation that people ignore instructions from the authorities and do their own thing in an emergency situation. On the surface, that seems inconsistent to me. When the battlefield is the homeland and the combatants are civilians, does that change the ethos of discipline and following orders? I do advise people to listen to the advice of the Homeland Security folks. And I know what that advice is going to be. It is posted on their website. Here is the exact quote of my advice AND Homeland Security Dept's advice that I used in all the talks, speeches and seminars I spoke at: "At www.ready.gov, Homeland Security talks, in clear terms, about what advice we should expect from the authorities during nuclear, chemical and biological attacks. Here are some quotes from the website: Biological Threat “In the event of a biological attack, public health officials may not immediately be able to provide information on what you should do.” Radiation Threat “As with any emergency, local authorities may not be able to immediately provide information on what is happening and what you should do.” Chemical Threat “Quickly try to define the impacted area or where the chemical is coming from if possible.” “Take immediate action to get away.” Though not inspiring or reassuring, the Homeland Security website messages are clear enough. They tell us, in the event of a biological or nuclear attack, to NOT depend on the authorities and during a chemical attack, you must decide what to do." My book was based on the very premise that government officials won't be able to provide advice in a mass casualty situation and if they do, it will likely be wrong. (Recall the initial advice given to occupants of the WTC to remain in the building.) I designed the book and speeches to empower people to fill the void the government already acknowledges will exist. I invented the "One Minute Fallout Zone Calculator" for the same reason. My book was printed on Dec 11, 2001. President Bush signed the Homeland Security Act of 2002 into law nearly a year later on November 25, 2002. Since then, The Red Cross, CDC and some states have created websites to offer emergency preparedness advice tailored to terrorism. I had a year headstart on all of them. Yet every piece of advice in that little book is as valid today as then. Homeland Security has done nothing to change the validity of anything I wrote. Heck after some of their top folks read my book, I was asked to submit a resume for an executive job there. I declined. Whenever an information void exists, some will have an advantage others will be disadvantaged. Your past posts demonstrate your level of knowledge about security, terrorist weapons and their effect and defense is lacking. You have shown that you are ill-informed, mis-informed and uninformed about these issues. Whether or not you choose to use any of the advice offered, by Homeland Security, the other orgs or me, to create an advantage for yourself and your family is up to you. You are wasting your time challenging me. My family and I are prepared and well-informed and we are relaxed in the certain knowledge that we are. uw