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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Enam Luf who wrote (604907)	8/17/2004 3:40:04 PM
From: gerard mangiardi	Respond to of 769670

Anyone know of ANY of Bush's policies that have turned out to be as good as advertised seems like every one has been a disaster.

To: Enam Luf who wrote (604907)	8/17/2004 3:53:19 PM
From: Steve Dietrich	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

<<the central issue is whether one is paying to enjoy musical entertainment or to see a "performance" put on by an artist.>> The artist is the artist. What if the artist has new material which is extremely political (but sung instead of spoken)? Are you saying they can't perform their new material without the public's prior consent? If you don't like what an artist is doing, don't go. If the show was something very different than what you expected, don't go to any future shows. It's pretty simple really. <<If I paid $50 bucks to see Les Miserables, and the cast spent the first 20 minutes pontificating about the Israeli Palestinian conflict, I'd be pretty ticked off.>> And if it was on Broadway, so too would the theater. But if it was some arty-political off Broadway thing, well you take your chances. I don't mind the casino firing Ronstadt. She may not be what they wanted: something inoffensive to all of their customers. But the idea that the ticket buying public has a right to dictate the artist's performance is ridiculous. Steve Dietrich

To: Enam Luf who wrote (604907)	8/17/2004 6:25:57 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

Ever the absolutist, JP steers clear of the slippery slope altogether. You know. It is not really a slippery slope. At least I don't think it is. If I am to present Hugo's work, I am going to also keep in mind your perceptions, your hopes and impressions, this, gathered from your culture. So, when you come to see Hugo, you will see him via me. But I will not present a few words on behalf of George Bush, dedicating the production of Les Miserables to the Swiftvets. To do such a thing is to corrupt Hugo! It is a corruption of the entire night! As much as I support Bush, should I do such a thing I have stolen from you, likely creating ill-will. It is nothing upon which anyone ought to build community. As a society, we ought not accept such dishonor. We certainly ought not defend it in the name of "free speech."