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To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (605074)8/17/2004 7:47:54 PM
From: SeachRE  Respond to of 769670
 
I'm not a businessman, God. You are wrong for once... >>He is a businessman just like everyone else<<



To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (605074)8/17/2004 7:48:40 PM
From: Enam Luf  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
>>The artists is not the artist. He is a businessman just like everyone else.

this begs the question of whether art should benefit humanity in some way, or can it be for the sole spiritual benefit of its maker.



To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (605074)8/17/2004 8:00:29 PM
From: Steve Dietrich  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
<<It all depends upon who Hugo was before he encouraged his audience.>>

More silliness. How can you judge Hugo? In all things he is Hugo, maybe not your understanding of Hugo, but Hugo none the less. If he would share his thoughts with an audience, how lucky for that audience...

Personally, off topic, i admired his belief in science and rational thought over dogma:

We know the clerical party; it is an old party. This it is which has found for the truth those two marvelous supporters, ignorance and error. This it is which forbids to science and genius the going beyond the Missal and which wishes to cloister thought in dogmas. Every step which the intelligence of Europe has taken has been in spite of it. Its history is written in the history of human progress, but it is written on the back of the leaf. It is opposed to it all. This it is which caused Prinelli to be scourged for having said that the stars would not fall. This it is which put Campanella seven times to torture for saying that the number of worlds was infinite and for having caught a glimpse of the secret of creation. This it is which persecuted Harvey for having proved the circulation of the blood. In the name of Jesus it shut up Galileo. In the name of St. Paul it imprisoned Christopher Columbus. To discover a law of the heavens was an impiety, to find a world was a heresy. This it is which anathematized Pascal in the name of religion, Montaigne in the name of morality, Moliere in the name of both morality and religion. There is not a poet, not an author, not a thinker, not a philosopher, that you accept. All that has been written, found, dreamed, deduced, inspired, imagined, invented by genius, the treasures of civilization, the venerable inheritance of generations, you reject.

-- Victor Hugo, quoted from John E. Remsberg, The Christ, pp. 321-22


<<The artists is not the artist. He is a businessman just like everyone else.>>

I couldn't agree less.

Steve Dietrich