To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (61295 ) 8/18/2004 5:15:02 PM From: Sully- Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 794373 <font color=blue>"Again, I am not arguing for the truthfulness of Kerry's statements but for the probably of error in the swifties statements."<font color=black> A couple of points on your POV AM. First, Kerry has an established history for intentional prevarications, distortions & outright lies, including his Vietnam experiences. He has been tripped up himself by authoring varying accounts in his own books or during interviews throughout the years of his experiences in Vietnam. That makes Kerry a less than credible witness to events that establish his self promoted "heroism". Kerry filed a number of reports that directly led to medals for himself or protected himself from scrutiny from accidently killing a child, etc. Often these reports were filed unbeknownst to others who were present at those very same incidents. The Swift Boat Vets have pointed out, that upon inspection of said reports, what Kerry reported would have required other reports to be filed. And those reports should corroborate Kerry's reports. IOW, if our guys received enemy fire, a specific report had to be filed for every incident. If there were any casualties, a casualty report was mandatory for each incident. The Swift Boat Vets have noted that for several of Kerry's medals he received per Kerry's filed reports, there were no such enemy fire or casualty reports, meaning there was no hostile fire & there were no casualties even though Kerry's reports & the medals he received for them necessitated enemy fire &/or casualties to have occurred. These are very relevant facts where contemporaneous reporting was mandatory, yet none existed, calling into question the veracity of Kerry's surreptitiously filed reports. Then the Swift Boat Vets added their personal recollections of the actual events, they also provided supporting documentation & sworn affidavits. Often, more than one Swift Boat Vet was present at these incidents. Their sworn eyewitness testimony is consistent with all but the records filed by Kerry & often are corroborated by Kerry's later conflicting recollections in his own journals, books & his interviews.