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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bob who wrote (605605)	8/18/2004 4:23:42 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Respond to of 769667

"I have shown you a link where Kerry has not signed." No kidding! (I already said: neither candidate had signed a form 180!) If you are interested, today's The Note (ABC News' daily political log) included links to stories from the Boston Globe (which had an article about the continuing AP FOA lawsuit against the administration, requesting the same documents) and from The Washington Times, which quoted the WH Press Secretary's 'non-denial denial' when asked about signing a form 180.

To: Bob who wrote (605605)	8/18/2004 4:34:34 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Since you seem to like NewsMax so much... here's a report on NewsMax (Friday, June 25th.) confirming what I've already told you: NEITHER CANDIDATE HAS SIGNED THE FORM. (The article also talks about the ongoing AP lawsuit.) "NewsMax talked with B.G. Burkett, co-author of �Stolen Valor: How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of Its Heroes and Its History,� and award-winning Vietnam historian. Veteran Burkett opined that he wished the AP was going after Kerry with the same vigor as Bush. �I would challenge both candidates to sign off on a Standard Form 180 (the waiver) and release all records to a major press outlet.� newsmax.com

To: Bob who wrote (605605)	8/18/2004 5:00:15 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Respond to of 769667

kerry has been caught in the mega lie. habitual liars want to change the subject. PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH's experience as CIC has been evaluated as "quality leadership" by General Tommy Franks. Hand waving over 35 year old documents is stupid. The totality of events concerning all of his service decades ago led authorities to issue the President an honorable discharge. kerry has dozens of former veterans who served with him stating he lied about his service. I doubt the paper records from back then can do anything but show more distortions between kerry's personal logs and the official record. kerry has the right to not release incriminating documents. The War Hero That Wasn't By Jamie Glazov FrontPageMagazine.com \| August 18, 2004 Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Scott Swett, the primary author of WinterSoldier.com, a central repository of information for writers and researchers on the role of John Kerry, Vietnam Veterans Against the War, and others in the "war crimes" propaganda campaign that successfully undermined public support for America's defense of South Vietnam. He is also the webmaster at SwiftVets.com, home base for Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Their recent ad in three battleground states ignited a political firestorm that has the Kerry campaign firing lawyer letters to the nation's TV and Radio stations. You can get the full story about the controversy over John Kerry's service in Vietnam in the best-selling book Unfit for Command for only $19.95 from the FrontPage Magazine Bookstore. FP: Mr. Swett, welcome to Frontpage Interview. Swett: Thanks very much for inviting me. I've been a fan of FrontPage Magazine for quite a while. FP: Tell us a bit about the role of the Swift Vets' much-maligned PR firm in planning their May 4 debut at the National Press Club. You were present for the planning meeting, tell us what happened. Swett: I had been working with John O'Neill to pull together some presentation material for the press conference, and he invited me to come over to the Comfort Inn where they were staying. The planning meeting was held in a conference room downstairs, and it lasted for several hours. A number of the Swift Vets had attended various reunion events over the years, but many hadn't seen each other in more than 3 decades, so the first part of the meeting was spent getting everybody reacquainted. I passed around my copy of "The New Soldier," Kerry's hard-to-find 1971 book on the Washington protest that made him famous so the veterans could see his "other band of brothers" throwing away their medals and pretending to murder civilians on the steps of the U.S. Capitol. Then O'Neill asked each "Swiftee" to stand, introduce himself, and give his own reasons for speaking out against John Kerry. Those statements were very similar to what they said before the cameras the next morning. Next, O'Neill introduced communications specialist Merrie Spaeth, widow of his former law partner, and her assistant. They offered tips on dealing with the media and helped organize the timing of the event, mostly by trimming the Swift Vets' speeches down to around 90 seconds. It was obvious that each man's statement was what he intended to say, rather than the product of some sort of external manipulation. After a while there was a break for Chinese carryout and soft drinks, then they all went back to work. By the end of the evening they had hammered out the contents and the sequence of their presentation. The next morning at the National Press Club, 18 combat veterans stepped up to the microphones in turn to deliver devastating assessments of John Kerry's honesty, integrity, and capacity to lead. There is no doubt in my mind that every one of them said exactly what he believes. FP: Enlighten us as to what you know about the mounting evidence that Kerry grossly inflated his combat record in Vietnam. Swett: That's a subject that could fill a book, and in fact has. I'll just point out that multiple witnesses have signed affadavits testifying that John Kerry's claims about the major events of his Vietnam tour bear little resemblance to reality. They state that Kerry's claim to have transported troops into Cambodia is complete fiction, that his first Purple Heart was self-inflicted and that his commanding officer refused to sign off on it, that his account of rescuing Jim Rassmann in the middle of a firefight is untrue -- three eyewitnesses say there was no enemy contact whatsoever during the event -- and so on, and so on. Many more details on all of this are available at SwiftVets.com, and in the new book Unfit for Command. FP: Kerry’s false charges against the U.S. military have tarnished the reputations of a generation of American soldiers, helped Hanoi win the war, and paved the way for the communist genocide that followed. Do you agree? Give your angle on this. Swett: I'd say that sums it up pretty concisely. The contempt which awaited returning Vietnam veterans was a real anomaly in American history. The country has now returned to its normal practice of holding those who fight to defend it in high regard, which forces Kerry's defenders to perform remarkable verbal gymnastics as they try to explain that he really loved and respected America's troops even though he claimed they routinely murdered civilians. The usual counter-attack from the leftists is, "So you're saying no atrocities were committed in Vietnam?" Of course we aren't -- there are atrocities in all wars. The issue is whether they were frequent or rare, aberrations or a matter of policy. Atrocities are regularly committed in Boston. Now, most people comprehend that a large number of people live in Boston, and that isolated events cannot reasonably be used to characterize the entire city. This is the nature of Kerry's lie about America in Vietnam -- he took rare incidents among 2.6 million troops fighting a guerrilla war over a period of ten years and used them to smear the entire U.S. military, testifying before the Senate that atrocities were "not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command." The charge that it was really American troops who committed genocide in Southeast Asia rather than the communists is the leftist Big Lie about Vietnam. It was started by the Soviet KGB, dramatized and "documented" in America by people like Kerry and Jane Fonda, amplified by a sympathetic media, and enshrined in the popular culture by Hollywood, but it is still a lie -- a claim as grotesque as insisting that American troops rather than Nazis caused the Holocaust. It is precisely that lie that we are targeting at WinterSoldier.com, by showing how the purveyors of the lie organized and operated, and by providing accurate information to help people inform themselves about what really happened. FP: The DNC and the Kerry Campaign immediately pulled out a lawyer letter targeting the nation's TV and Radio stations one day after the Swift Boat Veteran's for Truth aired their ad. How come? ................. follow the link to read the rest. frontpagemag.com