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To: John Carragher who wrote (61938)	8/20/2004 7:19:38 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793903

Roger Simon-who I have not posted lately-has a good comment. Spin Doctors of Times Square Who can be shocked anymore by the oddly defensive partisanship of The New York Times? When the accusations by the Swift Boat Veterans were first made several weeks ago, one issue above all stood out, not just with the blogosphere, but with large numbers of concerned citizens from both parties, that is John Kerry's statment before the US Senate -- "seared" in his memory, as he said -- that he had spent Christmas Eve of 1968 under fire in Cambodia. He made this assertion during an important policy debate on War in Nicaragua -- a serious matter indeed. It wasn't a question of mere medals (who cares?). It was national security, life and death. (He also made similar statements in print, as we know.) But The New York Times, writing for the first time on this scandal they have so assiduously avoided, buries what surely deserves to be the lede in the fourth to last paragraph of a 3500 word article! This week, as its leaders spoke with reporters, they have focused primarily on the one allegation in the book that Mr. Kerry's campaign has not been able to put to rest: that he was not in Cambodia on Christmas Eve in 1968, as he declared in a statement to the Senate in 1986. Even Mr. Brinkley, who has emerged as a defender of Mr. Kerry, said in an interview that it was unlikely that Mr. Kerry's Swift boat ventured into Cambodia on Christmas or Christmas Eve, though he said he believed that Mr. Kerry was probably there shortly afterward. One wonders why they even bothered to print the measly paragraph (CYA perhaps?). One thing is certain, few will read it because the article itself is a tedious recitation of the obvious -- that the Swift Boat Veterans are heavily backed by Bush supporters. (Talk about dog bites man.) You would think a newspaper with Times' aspirations would be interested in why a man running for the most powerful position on Earth would find it necessary to trumpet seemingly bogus involvments with Cambodia and the CIA, up until quite recently. It wouldn't take Freud, Jung or Adler to tell them that this might speak to the man's personality. Surely the Times people must know that. In fact, I wouldn't doubt they do. And that's the problem.

To: John Carragher who wrote (61938)	8/20/2004 11:18:04 AM
From: t4texas	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793903

one interesting point thurlow made in passing on the scarborough interview was that they were there at the mined boat for 1.5 hours. apparently they rescued the guys, kept the mined swift boat from sinking, and somehow got the mined boat to the LST (that is what i heard him say) craft that was theirs. this small time detail is an eye opener for me. if they were there on site 1.5 hours, it is hard to believe there was enemy fire coming in. if fire did come in, they could not have worked 1.5 hours in the area without a lot of dead vc being identified or high-tailing vc being observed. anyway i don't think they would have stayed around 1.5 hours working the mined boat with incoming fire of any kind.