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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (606835)8/20/2004 3:07:09 PM
From: Johannes Pilch  Respond to of 769670
 
Being a Christian-zionist, you are, of course, willing to lie to defend Bush's war which was fought primarily for the benefit of Israel and Talmudic Judaism, and secondarily for big oildcompanies.

Being an obvious liar, you are, of course, eager to tell lies about my supposed willingness to lie. You are a clear hypocrite, namecalling like the rest of us and yet trying to condemn everyone but yourself. You disgusting phoney.

Bush's primary mission in Iraq was ostensibly "to protect Americans from Saddam's WMD's" Bush and his neocon masters repeated this obvious lie dozens and even hundreds of times.

What a liar. You are actually supporting a child-murderer because Bush responded to intelligence in the same way the child-murderers responded to it. Kerry voted to support the war (and then he voted against it. Now he is for it, but against it - he is as big a liar as you are). Even Bill Clinton supported Bush's call here. Yet you are slandering the President for doing his job, calling him a liar. You are a godless liar. There is no truth in you.

He clearly stated that the "eminent" danger of these WMD necessitated an immediate attack upon Iraq in violation of international law and the alienation of our European allies and the world community.

Post the link, liar.

The intelligence of our European allies and several top American analysts contradicted Bush's lies about the eminent danger of WMDs in Iraq.

Well, fortunately we have a President who would rather rely upon American intelligence, than that of the worthless pansies in Europe. This is the same intelligence that caused Kerry to support the war (which he later did not support, but then supported and now does not support but does. You are all liars - filthy godless child-murdering liars.)

Bush and his neocons (Wolfowitz, Perl, Feith, Rumsfeld) Armed with lies and in defiance of the very world community organization that America help create and nurture, Bush illegally invaded Iraq "to protect America from WMDs."

Well, Bush had a dictator in Iraq who had defied his obligations to disarm and who was using his defiance as a threat against the United States. Had Bush done nothing and Iraq was indeed able to strike at us or at our allies, we would be in a far worse pickle than the relatively happy circumstances we enjoy today. Bush did the right thing. He called Saddam's bluff. And yet you call the man a "liar." There is no proof of such a thing, not even the slightest bit of proof. Here is a lie. "I don't have an SUV. The family has it." Yet you openly support the child-murdering source of this lie. There is no doubt that your father is the devil.

That was Bush's MISSION IN IRAQ! No amount of clever posturing and shrill denials will change this clear historical fact.

Had Saddam fufilled his obligations to the world community, we would not be in Iraq to this day. That is a fact you frauds consistently fail to mention. Bush had no choice but to enter Iraq in view of 911 and in view of Saddam's open hostility to the U.S. and his defiance of the world community. You may not agree with his decision, but you have no grounds to claim the man lied. You are of your father-- the devil.

It was only later when it became apparent that Bush had lied about WMDs that his neocon keepers began changing the mission to a "so-called liberation of the Iraqi people". Suddently the "mission" had to be changed when the whole world could see that Bush and the neocons had lied about WMDs.

You are all liars. Along with the concern about WMD Bush was emphatic about the freedom of the Iraqis. He changed nothing. Read Bush's speech to the UN news.bbc.co.uk You will find these words

"Last year, the UN Commission on Human Rights found that Iraq continues to commit extremely grave violations of human rights and that the regime's repression is all-pervasive.

Tens of thousands of political opponents and ordinary citizens have been subjected to arbitrary arrest and imprisonment, summary execution and torture by beating and burning, electric shock, starvation, mutilation and rape.

Wives are tortured in front of their husbands; children in the presence of their parents; and all of these horrors concealed from the world by the apparatus of a totalitarian state.

In 1991, the UN Security Council, through Resolutions 686 and 687, demanded that Iraq return all prisoners from Kuwait and other lands. Iraq's regime agreed. It broke this promise.

Last year, the Secretary General's high-level coordinator for this issue reported that Kuwaiti, Saudi, Indian, Syrian, Lebanese, Iranian, Egyptian, Bahraini and Armeni nationals remain unaccounted for; more than 600 people.

One American pilot is among them."


You will find these words also

"If we meet our responsibilities, if we overcome this danger, we can arrive at a very different future.

The people of Iraq can shake off their captivity. They can one day join a democratic Afghanistan and a democratic Palestine inspiring reforms throughout the Muslim world.

These nations can show by their example that honest government and respect for women and the great Islamic tradition of learning can triumph in the Middle East and beyond.

And we will show that the promise of the United Nations can be fulfilled in our time.

Neither of these outcomes is certain. Both have been set before us.

We must choose between a world of fear and a world of progress.

We cannot stand by and do nothing while dangers gather. We must stand up for our security and for the permanent rights and the hopes of mankind.

By heritage and by choice, the United States of America will make that stand.

And, delegates to the United Nations, you have the power to make that stand, as well.

Thank you very much."


You are slandering the President. You are wrong to make the claims you are making. Clearly you are ignorant and filled with sin.

So it is only natural for Ziochristian(this defines precisely what you are an cannot be considered and ad hominem.)like yourself...

What a liar. You are simply trying to dismiss your ad hominem by use of more lies. You surely know this is a term that you use to disparage your opponents themselves rather than your opponent's ideas, and yet you persist in telling lies about your sins. Everyone knows you are lying, Emile. Everyone knows it. Your lies are made quite plain. You fool no one - not even you. Yet you continually lie. This ought to tell you of the dark place that exists in you where a heart should be. You are filled with lies and evil.

Here is Bush subtly trying to change his "mission" in Iraq and make it appear different that his original intention: "A year ago I did give the speech from the carrier saying we had achieved an important objective, accomplished a mission,"

What a liar. You keep claiming this lie when the facts are dead against you. You are evil, Vidrine. Godless.