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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (607231)	8/21/2004 11:07:23 AM
From: Mr. Palau	Respond to of 769670

You would have more luck trying to get an oak tree to do the hula than to get Tommy boy admit the truth, or to articulate a logical thought. He's a Cyberloon wannabe.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (607231)	8/21/2004 11:12:22 AM
From: Thomas A Watson	Respond to of 769670

All liars should be angry and losing their cool as honest men are outing them. Christmas in Cambodia. A triple decker lie treat. swift2.he.net is now also toms.homeip.net I think I will pay dyndns 6 more buck so I can register 20 more domains pointing to kerry.lies...com Vetting the Vet Record nationalreview.com Kerry's 1971 testimony includes every left-wing cliché about Vietnam and the men who served there. It is part of the reason that even today, people who are too young to remember Vietnam are predisposed to believe the worst about the Vietnam War and those who fought it. This predisposition was driven home by the fraudulent "Tailwind" episode some months ago. The first cliché is that atrocities were widespread in Vietnam. But this is nonsense. Atrocities did occur in Vietnam, but they were far from widespread. Between 1965 and 1973, 201 soldiers and 77 Marines were convicted of serious crimes against the Vietnamese. Of course, the fact that many crimes, either in war or peace, go unreported, combined with the particular difficulties encountered by Americans fighting in Vietnam, suggest that more such acts were committed than reported or tried. But even Daniel Ellsberg, a severe critic of U.S. policy in Vietnam, rejected the argument that the biggest U.S. atrocity in Vietnam, My Lai, was in any way a normal event: "My Lai was beyond the bounds of permissible behavior, and that is recognizable by virtually every soldier in Vietnam. They know it was wrong....The men who were at My Lai knew there were aspects out of the ordinary. That is why they tried to hide the event, talked about it to no one, discussed it very little even among themselves." My Lai was an extreme case, but anyone who has been in combat understands the thin line between permissible acts and atrocity. The first and potentially most powerful emotion in combat is fear arising from the instinct of self-preservation. But in soldiers, fear is overcome by what the Greeks called thumos, spiritedness and righteous anger. In the Iliad, it is thumos, awakened by the death of his comrade Patroclus that causes Achilles to leave sulking in his tent and wade into the Trojans.