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To: Orcastraiter who wrote (14216)	8/24/2004 7:56:24 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

NICE TRY at weaseling. But no banana. Kerry said he was there in DECEMBER 1968 AND HE REMEMBERED PRESIDENT RICHARD NIXON DENYING THE PRESENCE OF US TROOPS IN THAT COUNTRY. And Presidents lie about covert operations. It goes with the job. You know it. I know it. Everybody knows it. So the fact that Nixon later lied about operations in Cambodia is NOT relevant. The problem, as the article clearly pointed out, was Richard Nixon was NOT President in December 1968. LBJ was. Nixon did not become President until Jan 20, 1969. So quite clearly Kerry was (a) lying or (b) wrong. Now lying or wrong about what? Well, several of his commanders say HE WAS NEVER ORDERED INTO CAMBODIA. So: He disobeyed orders, or he's lying. Take your pick. On the floor of the Senate on March 27, 1986, Sen. John Kerry issued this statement: "I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the President of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared — seared — in me." Mr. Kerry's statement at the time was similar to other statements he had made after returning from duty in Vietnam, and throughout much of the 1970s. Writing for the Boston Herald in October 1979, Mr. Kerry said this: "I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real." Remember that? He wasn't speaking past tense.

To: Orcastraiter who wrote (14216)	8/25/2004 7:29:55 AM
From: JeffA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

You go so far as to make excuses for the this guy's mis-statements? Personally I'd think if he got 5 medals in 4 months in 68-69 everyday of that would be SEARED, SEARED I TELL YOU, into his brain, into the very fabric of his being! Why is it necessary you feel the need to defend these mis-statements or outright lies? Is this the same blindfold of loyalty to a Dem leader that you people exhibited to Clinton? What is it that inspires such blind instincts to become a follower and defender of such an individual? He's said nothing to make me think he would be a good President, let alone a better President than George Bush. I like his running mate a bit, but that only counts a very minor bit in getting me to consider voting his way. Kerry is soooo very....... not Presidential