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To: longnshort who wrote (143983)	8/25/2004 10:50:13 AM
From: Dr. Id	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Just curious... even if your swift boat commanders against Kerry were to have a shred of credibility (which they don't seem to have as none actually served WITH Kerry)... who is more honorable... a privileged white man who went to Vietnam and engaged in combat, or a privileged white man who hid out in the National Guard and didn't even show up for duty? This is a nice deflection away from GW's status as a chickenhawk. It's interesting that so many are coming forward who "served" with Kerry, and yet no one can be found who served with GW in Alabama.

To: longnshort who wrote (143983)	8/25/2004 10:55:54 AM
From: Dr. Id	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

longnshort, your "Swift Boat Vet Q & A" might have more credibility if Kenneth Cordier were actually a Swift Boat Veteran. Unfortunately, he's not. But he is a liar (so he does fit well into the Bush Campaign) democraticunderground.com Kenneth Cordier, one of the Swift Boat Veterans appearing in the new ad, was not only not a Swift Boat Veteran, but a former vice-chair of Veterans for Bush/Cheney - and a current advisor to Veterans for Bush/Cheney '04. Don't look too hard for Cordier's name at that link though. It seems that sometime between August 2 and August 19 - when Digby discovered Cordier's link to Bush in Google's cache - the Bush campaign scrubbed his name from their official website. The Google cache of the Bush campaign website clearly showed Cordier's name listed on the page - at least it did until Saturday evening at 5:19 PM when the cache was mysteriously updated. I say mysteriously because this screenshot, taken just two hours earlier, clearly shows that the cache hadn't been updated since August 2 - and Cordier's name is sitting right there. Then, late on Saturday evening, Cordier quit the Bush campaign. "A volunteer adviser has quit President Bush's re-election campaign after appearing in a veterans group's television commercial blasting Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry's involvement in the Vietnam-era antiwar movement. A Bush campaign statement said it did not know that retired Air Force Col. Ken Cordier had appeared in an ad by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth," CNN reported. Oh really? Then I wonder why they felt the need to remove his name from their website sometime earlier in the month? If anyone truly believes that the Bush campaign was not coordinating with the Swift Boat Veterans for "Truth," they must need their heads examined. The Kerry campaign released an Internet ad called "Old Tricks" last week which simply featured a clip from a 2000 Republican primary debate between John McCain and George W. Bush where - coincidence of coincidences - Bush refused to denounce a "fringe" veterans group that was attacking McCain's service in Vietnam. Sound familiar? The simple fact is that George W. Bush - who avoided service in Vietnam - has made a habit of using so-called "independent" groups to besmirch the records of real war heroes. CBS reported in May that the "The [May, 2004 Swift Boat Veterans for Truth] press conference was set up by the same people who tried to discredit John McCain when McCain faced George W. Bush for the Republican nomination in 2000." And in 2002, war hero and triple amputee Max Cleland was compared to Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein by another "independent" group, without a word of complaint from his Republican opponent. (Ann Coulter continued to smear Cleland for the GOP through 2004.) On Saturday, John Edwards challenged the Bush campaign - again - to denounce the ad. "This is a moment of truth for George W. Bush," he said. "We're going to see what kind of man he is." Let's face it - those of us who have been closely following Bush's actions for the last three and a half years have known for some time what kind of man he is. Perhaps Team Bush's current sewer-level campaign will finally let the rest of the country know what "honor and integrity" means to Our Great Leader.