To: Karin who wrote (2857 ) 8/25/2004 10:26:37 PM From: TideGlider Respond to of 27181 That is the new talking point. One is he saved lives and ended the war. Two is that he said he just heard of the atrocities. Well, he said he participated himself, but that isn't important. Really, because we can't believe most of what he says. The problem is the effect he, Ted Kennedy and varied Jane Fonda types create. They show division to the enemy, which gives them encouragement, where they might have given in. It also provides great evidence to an interrogator, to pound you with. Captured in a foreign land, beaten, tortured....you are alone and feel isolation at it's worse. Then you are confronted with Americans screaming how wrong the war is, a LtJG claiming a litany of abuses, atrocities, war crimes etc. No, you know your captors feel more than obligated to beat you. They are delivered the high ground by your own people. So there you are, alone and wrong. No country, no people....just wrong as wrong can be. Your country as well as your tormentors agree you are wrong. How alone can a man be? Certainly it doesn't get worse than that. What these liberals do and it works is claim their own country wrong, strengthen the resolve of the enemy, weaken the resolve of our forces and like a self fulfilling prophecy, the war is abandoned. Then they claim it was "unwinnable" Of course it is always going to be "unwinnable" as long as they assist in the enemies effort. Now the liberals care about people in other countries. How about the literal millions that were slaughtered in South VietNam and Cambodia after the US influence was gone? Of course the liberals will blame others for the deaths of those millions....over 10 million people. Blame the US of course. Until Ted Kennedy and the ilk began their screaming of the "unjust" invasion. There was little resistance. They actually inflamed the people of Iraq with their rhetoric. They know one thing is certain. If American Senators say America is wrong, then the US Soldiers must be there for more nefarious reasons.