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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (38372)8/26/2004 11:09:46 PM
From: alan w  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
The remnant will be saved for the ages! Paul spends the entire first part of the chapter explaining why God hardened the jews. They have stumbled. The remnant has not stumbled. The unbelieving jews have stumbled. But have they stumbled so as to fall? No, he says.

This is not rocket science. Verse 26 says(and it's not a difficult concept) "and thus all Israel shall be saved".

Again I tell you that you simply refuse to believe God's word. It's OK, you don't believe it in several other places either.

The remnant verse is supported by other scripture but the "all Israel will be saved" is just standing alone and not supported anywhere else.

Really? What about Ezekiel chapter 37? What about Jeremiah 31:31-34? What about John 1:29? What about Romans 5:18&19? What about 1 Corinthians 15:22? What about 1 Corinthians 15:26? What about 2 Corinthians 5:19? What about Collossians 1:20? What about 1 Timothy 2:1-6? What about 1 Timothy 4:10? What about 1 John 2:2?

All of these verses support the biblical fact that God will save all. The problem lies in your translations. When the greek spoke of an age, your translations make it eternal.

Want proof? Hebrews 1:8 and Revelation 11:15(KJV, NIV, NASB etc). They both claim that Christ will reign forever. Now look at 1 Corinthians 15:25 & 28. These say that He will reign UNTIL He has defeated all enemies and that He will SUBJECT HIMSELF to His God and Father. His reign will end.

Reign forever? Absolutely not. If He reigns forever, then He will never defeat all enemies. And we know that He will defeat all enemies.

Ages and eternity. There is a difference Sidney. The saints will reign for the last 2 ages with Christ. The milleniel (1000) reign and the new heaven and new earth. Then when Christ defeats the last enemy(death), the ages will end!!

Question. If death is ABOLISHED, what are the wages of sin?

alan w