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To: JDN who wrote (611156)	8/26/2004 12:33:17 PM
From: Kevin Rose	Respond to of 769670

The Vietnamese knew that they could outlast any occupying power. Their belief was orthogonal to any protests in the US. If they had to battle an additional 5, 10, 20, 50 years, they would have. What else could we have done to win the war? I think it was Coulter who said that invading the North was the solution. Yup, another Korea; that would have won it... No, IMHO, it was unwinnable, and the sooner we realized that, the sooner we could get our troops out of the line of fire.

To: JDN who wrote (611156)	8/26/2004 12:36:58 PM
From: pompsander	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

JDN: There was much discussion and many articles written before the Coalition military action in Iraq warning of the possibility of what has now come to pass. Iraq began life as a cobbled together political nightmare. Like Yugoslavia, the Chezchs and the Slovaks, and other "political" nationbulding errors, there is no consistent nationalistic history, no consistent cultural or religious harmony. The shiites and the sunnis, the kurds and the sunnis, the sunnie and the shiites....have as much or more in the way of significant differences and decades old scores to settle than they do any will to pull together and build a society. I dont' know that it was a given that there was going to be a bloody power grab at many levels, but it was certainly discussed and written about before we liberated the Iraquis from Saddam. The question about what we had the right to expect is valid, but there were certainly plenty of people who worried about the two years after the end of major military activity more than they worried about the expected three months of military action. Sorry, no links...but you could check out the major speeches of J. Garofolo (vbg).