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To: Ish who wrote (144174)	8/26/2004 9:27:48 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 281500

Ish, I'm baffled how you could possibly conclude that from what I wrote: <I had a college deferment plus a 304 number in the lottery and I volunteered for the draft in '69. I guess I was a coward> Go back and read again. The cowards are those who use state force to force others to go and kill and be killed, against their will. The conscriptors and their supporting voters are enslaving people by drafting them. If you volunteer, then you are, ipso facto, to use a fancy phrase, not being forced against your will. We haven't had many fancy latin jargon stuff since that casus belli stuff a while ago, which is fancy jargon for "that's good enough for me, let's get them". Go back, read again slowly, moving your lips and using your finger to point to each word. Then, I'm going to give you a comprehension test! Those conscripted or volunteering to go to fight in a war are not the cowards. Those doing the conscripting are. One is coerced when one is drafted, or conscripted, or press-ganged. When one is coerced, it isn't freedom that one is experiencing. If one is coerced, then defence of freedom is not what one is doing. dictionary.reference.com dictionary.reference.com <The process or method of selecting one or more individuals from a group, as for a service or duty: a candidate who did not pursue the nomination, but accepted a draft by the party convention. Compulsory enrollment in the armed forces; conscription. A body of people selected or conscripted. > That process is nothing to do with individual choice. You weren't drafted. You volunteered. You enlisted. That's freedom. That's choice. Okay, so assuming you've read it again, here's a multi-choice test. You may refer to notes and previous posts. You have 15 minutes. Is being conscripted, or drafted, a manifestation of freedom? Check one of the following: A Yes B Maybe C Only if the enemy are evil commies, or gooks, or ragheads D Yes if it's not me and I get to sell the guns and be the boss back at headquarters. E No If you want more choices, or time, please ask. Mqurice