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Politics : Proof that John Kerry is Unfit for Command -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: JDN who wrote (3697)	8/28/2004 8:16:12 AM
From: Andrew N. Cothran	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 27181

Help!Help! We've Been Invaded byScreaming Kerryites! Dear Ann: While we were sleeping, the majority of those remaining posters (all five of them) over on the ChinuSFO John Kerry for President club have secretly and surreptitiously attempted a take over of the Proof that John Kerry is Unfit for Command. I thought that Chinu's banning of everybody over on his thread but his pseudo-intellectual friends would be sufficient fodder for his/her ego. But no! Here they are on your beloved thread. If you check Chinu's thread, the most recent posters numbered six. These are the Chinu Hard Core. Of those six, five of them (80%) are in the advance party seeking to take over your thread. They are: in order of most recent posters on your thread: redfish,SiouxPal,Patricia C.Trenchero, J.Chris Parson, and the redoubtable American Spirit. I have waged my own private war over on Chinu's tread. As you know, I was banned from that thread after having posted a few messages challenging their presumptive minds. Since then, I have employed the stealth tactic of using the Private Message service afforded us by our beloved SI to continue to keep that hardy band of brothers and sisters at least in touch with the shape and contours of truth. I thought that this action might keep them at bay. But NO Ann!. Here they are now in full force. We thinkers and true intellectuals on this thread who know the truth must come together in full battle array. We must contend with the enemy on our turf since their turf has been restricted so long so that none of us, unless we sneak in via Private Message, can penetrate effectively. But now that they are over here on our turf, we can use our biggest guns against their biggest prevaricators. (I hear tell that even CHINU him or herself have ventured forth beyond his GREAT WALL to protect his small and getting smaller band from the truth and has posted a thoughtless paragraph or two over here.) Is this the same CHINU who banned me and others from his/her thread and then had the temerity to attack us on his/her thread without giving us the right to answer back with volleys of our own? Hence my use of the Private Message service to defend myself. Though Chinu tried to manufacture his own unlevel playing field (that's his version of playing fair), I found a way to subvert his machinations. So, Fellow Posters on the Ann Corrigan thread: To Arms! To Arms! You have nothing to fear but a few weak thinkers and computer curser wielders from Chinu's unfair and unbalanced thread. Now, to the ramparts.

To: JDN who wrote (3697)	8/28/2004 9:00:15 AM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 27181

PROOF Bush lied/used family name to stay out of war: (* Cheney also did this as Kerry was volunteering for combat. Bush lied about this BTW so again he's a proven liar) "I'm very ashamed" The former Texas official who got George Bush into the National Guard apologizes for making sure that young men with important "family names" did not have to fight in Vietnam. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Jeff Horwitz Aug. 27, 2004 \| Another bombshell in the battle over Vietnam service that has been raging in the 2004 presidential race exploded on the Web Friday. In a video originally posted on the Web by a pro-Kerry organization in Austin, Texas, Ben Barnes, a former lieutenant governor of Texas, apologized for his role in getting a young George W. Bush into the Texas Air National Guard while young men who were not from prominent or wealthy families "died in Vietnam." "Let's talk a minute about John Kerry and George Bush, and I know them both," said Barnes in the video, which was filmed at a gathering of about 200 Kerry supporters in Austin on May 27. "I got a young man named George W. Bush into the Texas National Guard when I was lieutenant governor, and I'm not necessarily proud of that. But I did it. I got a lot of other people in the National Guard because I thought that was what people should do when you're in office, and you help a lot of rich people." "And I walked to the Vietnam Memorial the other day," Barnes continued, "and I looked at the names of the people that died in Vietnam, and I became more ashamed of myself than I have ever been, because it was the worst thing I ever did, was help a lot of wealthy supporters and a lot of people who had family names of importance get into the National Guard. And I'm very sorry about that, and I'm very ashamed, and I apologize to you as voters of Texas." Premium Benefits Salon's latest music mix Listen to 16 tracks from artists like Ani DiFranco, Camper Van Beethoven and Elysian Fields. One year subscription to Wired and U.S. News and World Report magazines. Get Premium on your PDA or Wireless device Free one month audio subscription to the New York Times or Wall Street Journal Get a free month of Premium when you refer a friend Get Salon's headlines delivered to your e-mail address Download Salon as plain text or PDF Barnes then condemned the Republican attacks on John Kerry's war service: "And I tell you that for the Republicans to jump on John Kerry and say that he is not a patriot after he went to Vietnam and was shot at and fought for our freedom and came back here and protested against the war, he's a flip-flopper, let me tell you: John Kerry is a 100 times better patriot than George Bush or Dick Cheney." The video of Barnes was filmed by Todd Phelan and Mike Nicholson, organizers of a political group called Austin4Kerry. Phelan is currently an organizer for the Travis County Democrats. The video first appeared on the Austin4Kerry Web site on June 25, but was widely overlooked until Friday. The video also includes a separate interview conducted by the same two filmmakers in which Barnes speaks with admiration about Kerry's valor. Phelan and Nicholson recall they were surprised by the candor of Barnes' remarks while they were filming him at the rally. "To be honest with you, my eyes lit up instantaneously," Phelan told Salon. "I looked at Mike, he looked at me, and it was like 'Did he just say that?'" But at the time, said Phelan, they did not think the video would create a stir. He suggested that the video suddenly became a Web phenomenon because of the heated swift boat controversy that has been fanned by supporters of Bush. Barnes' story about Bush and the Air National Guard first broke in 1999 as the then Texas governor was mounting his first campaign for the presidency. Bush insisted at the time that neither he nor his father sought Barnes' assistance. "I can tell you what happened," said Bush. "Nothing happened. My Guard unit was looking for pilots and I flew for the Guard. I'm proud of my service and any allegation that my dad asked for special favors is simply not true ... I didn't ask anybody to help get me to the Guard either." Barnes said at the time that it was a wealthy Bush family friend, a Houston oilman named Sidney Adger, who came to him with the request to help the younger Bush.