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To: KLP who wrote (65062)	8/28/2004 5:00:09 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793958

If there is anything to the rumors, it's not what Franklin passed TO Israel that's the problem. Someone passed disinformation about Iraqi WMD to the US (among others). It apparently came through the Pentagon, not the CIA, not State. Yesterday Bush went public that there were "miscalculations" about the Iraq war. And then this breaks. Coincidence? Nobody can deny that Israel AND Iran both stood to gain by the ouster of Saddam. Also Kurds, Kuwait, others. It's OK to hypothesize that Chalabi was a spy, but if you think someone is spying for Israel, that's crazy. Or so they say. Maybe some anti-Likud Israelis disagree.

To: KLP who wrote (65062)	8/28/2004 5:31:12 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793958

OK, this is just too weird for words. For many years, Mark A. Zell had a Jerusalem based law firm, Zell, Goldberg. Zell is a member of Gush Emunim, ultraorthodox splinter party, further to the right than Likud. The radical settler's movement. In DC, Zell hooked up with Douglas Feith, now Assistant Defense Secretary, and formed Feith and Zell, aka FANDZ, an international law firm. When Feith went to work for the Pentagon, the law firm changed the name to Zell, Goldberg but kept the FANDZ acronym. fandz.com Ahmed Chalabi's nephew, Salem Chalabi, is also a lawyer. Salem was, in fact, was in charge of the Iraqi War Crimes Tribunal until he was charged with murder. He has, or had, an international company himself, IILG, whose website is registered to Zell, and whose address is the same as FANDZ, that is, the law firm of Zell, Goldberg, that is Doug Feith's old law partners. Larry Franklin works for Doug Feith. I could mention that FANDZ is a big player in Iraqi reconstruction contracts, which isn't so strange considering that the ties to Chalabi. Zell is IILG's "marketing consultant." I guess this is how business is done in the Middle East. But if Larry Franklin is passing things FROM Israel TO the Pentagon which in turn gets "stove-piped" to the White House, bypassing the CIA -- Elliot Abrams is mentioned -- that's something else entirely. Edit: forgot to mention, James Woollsey, former head of CIA, is Ahmed Chalabi's lawyer and represents the Iraqi National Congress, which is apparently the source of most of the bogus WMD information. Sounds like something Michael Moore would come up with, but if true, the plate tectonics in Washington will indeed shift.

To: KLP who wrote (65062)	8/28/2004 7:10:18 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793958

Doing some more reading on Chalabi-Israel. Reminded that Chalabi promised to turn Iraq into a modern secular democracy, pro-Israel. The only pro-Israel state in the Muslim world. Something like that. So maybe it was not just us who were snookered. Marc Zell, the Z in FANDZ, said about Chalabi: >>"Ahmed Chalabi is a treacherous, spineless turncoat," says L. Marc Zell, a former law partner of Douglas Feith, now the undersecretary of defense for policy, and a former friend and supporter of Chalabi and his aspirations to lead Iraq. "He had one set of friends before he was in power, and now he's got another." While Zell's disaffection with Chalabi has been a long time in the making, his remarks to Salon represent his first public break with the would-be Iraqi leader, and are likely to ripple throughout Washington in the days to come. << fairuse.1accesshost.com