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To: LindyBill who wrote (65142)	8/29/2004 12:07:50 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793895

Kerry and James Warner Posted by McQ I was reading through American Legion Magazine, and came across an interview with Kerry by the staff of ALM. While perusing it, I came across this quote from Kerry in answer to a question about a flag burning amendment: "James Warner, who was a POW in Hanoi, said in a very eloquent article the Vietnamese showed him the photo of somebody burning the flag and said, "See? You're wrong." And he said, "No, that makes me right, because that shows that in our country, you're free, and that's the meaning of freedom." And the captor got absolutely outraged, purple, and he'll never forget having used that as a way of showing what America stands for." Well Jim Warner, a Marine Corps F4 pilot shot down over North Vietnam, had some other "very eloquent" things to say when recalling his imprisonment there and a man named Kerry who shamelessly used his name above: After we had talked for quite sometime the interrogator showed me a transcript of testimony that my mother had given at something called the winter soldier hearings...which I had no idea what these were. I read her testimony, and it wasn't damning, but then I saw some of the other stuff that had gone on at this winter soldier hearing and I wondered how did somebody get my mother persuaded to come, uh, appear at something like this. And then shortly thereafter he [his interrogator showed] showed my some statements from John Kerry. He said that John Kerry had helped to organize the winter soldier hearings because he was so motivated because he had been an American officer served in the US Navy...and...then he started reading some of the statements that John Kerry made. I'm sorry I can't quote them, but essentially he accused all of us in Vietnam of being criminals. That everything we had done was criminal. Therefore, of course, the North Vietnamese had told us from the time they got their hands on us that we were criminals, we're not covered by the Geneva Conventions, so it was ok for them to do whatever they wanted to us. And they told us that they were going to put us on trial, and some of us would be executed.... The interrogator went through all of these statements from John Kerry. And he starts pounding on the table, "Well see here is this Naval officer, he [John Kerry] admits that you are a criminal and that you deserve punishment." Kerry is indeed shameless. As is obvious, Jim Warner isn't his biggest fan. Kerry used Warner's mother in 1971, and now he uses Warner in 2004. qando.net

To: LindyBill who wrote (65142)	8/29/2004 6:57:48 AM
From: John Carragher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793895

flipped over to capital gang to catch anything on swift boat vets. It was a shouting match. Hunt says he talked to the men on swift boat and they were under fire. He also said Schachte said the same thing a few years ago and has changed his tune. no references given. Novak says he talked to same swift boat vets as Hunt and they told him no direct fire. Novak says they must have changed their story when they talk with you (Hunt). The capital gang were at each other's throats. What a mess. I came away with those who are democrat and support Kerry are standing by him and discount anything swift boat people say. republicans believe the unfit for command book over all. Hopefully, some people watching the program move more to the center based on Kerry's band of brothers changing their stories like Kerry does. Maybe enough doubt has been presented by the loud defense from these head talkers to make them feel safer with Bush when at the poll.