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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Suma who wrote (21190)9/1/2004 4:15:17 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976
 
Here is my response to Dr. Id when he accused me of believing anything bush said. He was wrong. On face value, I am no more likely to believe anything bush says, than I am likely to believe anything said about him. The issue lies in what can be reasonably confirmed and what can't.

Its not s'much documentation that is an issue with me, as it is a matter of principle. I was reading something attributed to Havel this morning and this struck a cord with me...

"The slightest bit of personal dishonesty warps the soul."

Here was my response to Dr. Id's challenge. Don't know if you saw this but it explains my view.

"Actually you've got it wrong, at least regarding me. I am a skeptic by nature. I don't believe much of anything or anybody unless I can personally confirm the information as truth.

I am equally cautious about declaring something false. As declaring something to be false, which puts me at risk of owning false allegations. This is no different than lieing and is, in fact, a form of lieing.

So, when you declare someone to be a liar, you have impugned the honor of that individual. If you have evidence that I can personally confirm, I will support you. However, If you are engaging in the spread of unsubstantiated rumor, innuendo, gossip, conspiracy theory, mendacious logic etc... especially if it is for the petty goal of advancing partison agendas, I will challenge you on your accusations...which I have done.

JOWLs unabashed dictionary
Main Entry: Liar

1) One who utters a statement that he/she knows to be untrue, with the intent to deceive.
2) One who maliciously accuses someone of being a liar without substantial proof.

"Bush's lies are well documented.

Then it should be a simple matter for you to bring forth the proof. The onus is now on you to do so, since you have impugned the honor of the president of the United States of America. Fail to do so and you have dishonored only your self.



To: Suma who wrote (21190)9/1/2004 4:23:39 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976
 
"However, is there a particular reason for this really strong feeling about having someone besmirch another and what do you consider proper documentation when this occurs....

oops I over looked the last part of your question. Sorry.

The proper documentation when someone besmirches another's honor should include an accounting of the duel that follows.