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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Brumar89 who wrote (21475)	9/3/2004 3:44:23 AM
From: geode00	Respond to of 173976

No matter how you look at it the US lost Vietnam. I suspect that it's true: we have already lost Iraq. We lost Iraq because we did not have enough troops to secure the country right after we toppled the government. What country can hold together and stay peaceful if the government disappears overnight? We gave Iraq anarchy and probably civil war. THE MAJORITY of Iraqis want the US to leave according to the Iraqi pollster. This has been the case for probably close to a year now. They are sovereign, we should leave. Is the Iraq war about the US or about Iraq? I think it's about 80% about the US: our politics, our oil, our corruption, our troops, our treasure, our desires, our expectations. Should this be the basis for war? The UN mostly pulled out of Iraq when their people were killed. They were pulled back in when Bush, Bremmer and Powell literally begged them to provide political fig leaves. Iraq is not a UN operation, it's a Bush operation. It's also possible that the terrible mess Bush made in diplomacy (the utter lack of) over Iraq is hurting our ability to confront a serious danger: Iran and North Korea. In addition, it's possible that the terrible mess of Iraq has also hurt our ability to confront the other big danger: Pakistan. What in the world Bush is doing about OBL when he doesn't even mention his name all week (he talks about 911 but not about OBL!) is even more mind-boggling but is also intimately connected to Iran and the removal of money ($900m illegally moved by Bush) and resources from the pursuit of OBL in Afghanistan. Iraq is not only a catastrophe (Bush's term) in and of itself but the consequences of this policy have serious and wide-spread repercussions for decades to come.